tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10074497415708680852024-03-13T21:11:48.975-07:00Bob's tips on becoming a successful punk rockerHow I became a Punk Rocker in 50,000 words or less...memories for the 70's, 80's, and 90's. Bob Rob Medinahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05818604452391830233noreply@blogger.comBlogger66125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1007449741570868085.post-75978046907767964122020-02-05T02:11:00.000-08:002020-02-05T02:46:39.497-08:00Colorado Crew : Denvoid Part 2 Book <div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
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<span style="color: blue;">Colorado Crew: Denvoid Part 2<br />A Collection of Tales & Images from<br />The Colorado Punk Scene 1988-1996<br />Authors: Bob Rob Medina & Sonny Kay<br />Book Cover: Chris Shary<br />Forward: Jason Heller<br />ISBN: 978-1-7923-2129-0<br />Pages: 322 <br />Full-color<br />Robot Enemy Books </span><br />
<span style="color: blue;">Order here: </span><span style="color: blue;"><a href="https://bobrobart.bigcartel.com/">https://bobrobart.bigcartel.com. </a></span><br />
<span style="color: blue;">If you are in the Denver area, the book is also available at: Wax Trax, Kilgore Books, Twist & Shout, Mutiny Information Cafe, FashioNation, Tattered Cover, Chain Reaction Records, Black and Read (Arvada) Bart's Records (Boulder), Albums on the Hill (Boulder), Trident Books (Boulder), and Red Letter Books (Boulder). </span><br />
<span style="color: blue;">Also available through: Amazon, Microcosm Publishing, Lunchbox Records (NC)</span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;">A follow-up to Bob Rob Medina's Denvoid and the Cowtown Punks, Colorado Crew : Denvoid Part 2 enlists Sonny Kay's talents to create a visual odyssey of images and interviews featuring bands, record labels, artists, writers, entrepreneurs, academics, photographers, promoters, Grammy nominees, culture jammers, and media influencers.</span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;">Inside you’ll find: Warlock Pinchers, Matt Bischoff (Fluid/’57 Lesbian), Tom Headbanger (Temple ov Psychick Youth/promoter), Chris Shary (artist/Pilot Car/Sizewell), Rich Jacobs (artist/Keep In Mind/Atomic Dilemma/Skate Edge fanzine and records), Sonny Kay (The VSS/Angel Hair/GSL Records), Jon Snodgrass (Armchair Martian/Drag the River) Atiba Jefferson (photographer), Scooter James (Pinhead Circus), Jason Heller (Crestfallen/The Blue Ontario/author), Mark Brooks (Warlock Pinchers/Foreskin 500/writer/director), Eric Richter (Christie Front Drive/Lilawatt/Turn*Key), Mike Jourgenson (Abdomen/DU Records/Spinal Jaundice fanzine), Chrissy Piper (Photographer), Julie Peasley (artist/Cavity/entrepreneur), Pete Lyman (Junkdrawer/JUHL/Grammy Award winner), Tim Nakari & Hans Buenning (Small Dog Frenzy), Matt Jacobson (Psychotic Society/Relapse Records), Kurt Ottaway (Twice Wilted), Andy Lefton (Flux of Disorder/Tau Cross/writer/director), Andy Monley (Jux Country/Acid Ranch), Dan Berger (Meanface/Hell’s Half Acre), Chanin Floyd (Twice Wilted/ Spell/’57Lesbian), Bryan Wendzel (Acid Pigs/Hell’s Half Acre/Mudstack/Disobedience fanzine), Ely Morgan (Sadplant/Novice/Manta Ray), Dave Clifford (Again!/The VSS), Jared Poley (Again!/Titanic Records), Andy Falconetti (Sissy Fuzz/Breezy Porticos), Richard Groskopf (Boss 302), Julia McClurg (The Hectics/Diagnosis fanzine), Paul Drake (promoter/photographer/roadie), Brian Hull (Atomic Dilemma), Ian O’Dougherty (Uphollow/Fauxgazi), Jack Suter (Acid Pigs), Paul & Pam Italiano (FashioNation), Dan Kapelovitz & Dan Kaufman (Grime Priest/Psychick Sooshee), Mike Jacoby (Normal Kids/39 Lies), Johnny Seven (Crestfallen/Seven Lucky Records), Josh & Justin Lent (FIA, Clusterfux/Chain Reaction Records), Keith Curts (Junkdrawer, Llamas NoVa/Echo Beds), Dave Paco (Eleventh Hour/FOUR!/The Messyhairs/Paco Garden Records), Andrew Murphy (Smooch Records), Paul Kane (Freewill Records/Double Entendre Records), Rich Myers (Bunny Genghis), Tony Roffe (Innocent Addiction), Tony Greenberg (Grimace), Kevin Savoy (Wrong Approach, Kingpin, Denver chef), Tim Beckman (Dogbite/Spell), Ted Thacker (Baldo Rex/Veronica), Patricia Kavanaugh (Harriet The Spy/Llamas NoVa/artist), April Soll (Social Joke), Vanessa Merten Holzkncht (Vex/Infinite Onion), Bob Rob Medina (Donut Crew Records/Savalas/Junkdrawer/promoter), Belljar, Choosey Mothers, Dead Silence, Blistering Body Pus, Aberant, Linus, T Tauri, Cold Crank..and just about everyone else who contributed to Colorado’s vibrant music scene from 1988-96. </span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><span style="background-color: white; display: inline; float: none; font-family: "arial" , "tahoma" , "helvetica" , "freesans" , sans-serif; font-size: 15.4px; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">The book also comes with a soundtrack: </span></span><br />
<span style="color: blue;"><span style="background-color: white; display: inline; float: none; font-family: "arial" , "tahoma" , "helvetica" , "freesans" , sans-serif; font-size: 15.4px; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">Colorado Crew : Denvoid Part 2 Compilation Album</span><br style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 15.4px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: left; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;" /><span style="background-color: white; display: inline; float: none; font-family: "arial" , "tahoma" , "helvetica" , "freesans" , sans-serif; font-size: 15.4px; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">Featuring 76 bands and 78 tracks.</span><br style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 15.4px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: left; text-decoration-color: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;" /><span style="background-color: white; display: inline; float: none; font-family: "arial" , "tahoma" , "helvetica" , "freesans" , sans-serif; font-size: 15.4px; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">Download by clicking </span><a href="https://mega.nz/#!1IpxCSgA!cANPPfoWrP4CT9zGoca9pLMdgeV9hzXiA8aqqTQZZE4" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 15.4px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">here</a></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue;">Abdomen: Gun Club Road 2:01 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Aberant: Song 1 2:36 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Acid Pigs: Swallow My Pride 2:52 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Acid Ranch: Simon's Halo 2:13 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Again: Wait The Turn 2:26 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Angel Hair: New Rocket 3:00 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Armchair Martian: Breaking Down Again 2:32 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Atomic Dilemma: Scars 3:05 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Baldo Rex: I'm OK, I Can Drive 2:08 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Belljar: On Hemophilia 3:43 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Blistering Body Pus Meaning of Life (Live_91) 2:41 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Boss 302: Whatever Happened to Fun 2:35 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Bunny Genghis: Ham Driver 3:58 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Choosey Mothers: Magazine 2:32 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Christie Front Drive: Turn 4:06 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Clusterfux: Letter to the Press 1:23 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Cold Crank: Call It What You Want 2:17 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">The Creeps: Ticketed 1:41 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Crestfallen: Three Feet Down 3:45 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Dead Silence: Faith River 1:34 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Deadstate: Outraged 1:00 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Distance: Consentrate 2:24 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Eco Guerrillas: Plodding 3:09 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">ELAN: Mudsocket 4:06 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">End of Story: The Winter 4:13 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Expatriate: Sometimes Love Is Fucking Stupid 1:53 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">FIA (Fuck It All): Unite & Fight 1:08 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">First Class Chokers: Never Go Back 2:17 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">The Fluid: Cold Outside 3:18 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Flux Of Disorder: NMTB 2:17 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Four!: Bad Situation 1:09 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Grimace: Burned 3:16 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Grime Priest: Ian 2:21 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">The Hectics: Bathmat 2:52 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Hell's Half Acre: Bed 'o Needles 2:15 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Hobbledehoy: Grommits 3:00 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Hop'd: Nifty Idea 2:27 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Human Head Transplant: Land O' Lies 4:54 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Innocent Addiction: Road Rash 1:35 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">IZ: Pinball Brain Node 3:30 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Junkdrawer: Knew You (Live at the Ogden 1995) 8:01 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Jux County: Zombie Afterlife 6:24 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Keep In Mind: Instrumental (Live at the Aztlan 1990) 3:54 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Llamas NoVa: No Name (Live at the Fox Theater) 3:24 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Meanface: King of Hell 2:15 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">New Breed: System 2:05 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Nine Twenty Nine (9:29): Black is White 2:26 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Normal Kids: Normal Kid 2:22 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Old Bull's Needle: Garbage Man 3:11 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Pilot Car: Mister Manero 2:25 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Pinhead Circus: So Why Do You Like Me Now 2:36 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Psychick Sooshee: Hare Fishna 3:54 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Psychotic Society: War Machine / Bleeding Contrast 1:37 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Reform Control: Qs 1:37 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Rotoflo (pre Savalas): Track 04 3:12 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">The Sauce: Turtle Buzz 4:08 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Savalas: First 3:27 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Short Fuse: Death Mobile 1:38 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Sissy Fuzz: Don't Fear (The Reverb) 3:02 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Sizewell: Any Other Name 3:01 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Small Dog Frenzy: Bigtime Sunshine 2:36 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">The Snatchers: So Far Away 3:21 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Soak: Foul Child 4:27 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Southpaw: Commentary On The Isagoge of Porphyry 4:01 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Spell: Seems To Me 3:21 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Spell: I Am A Meteor (unreleased bonus track) 4:26 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Suede Fruit: Eyes Of A Blue Dog 1:44 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">T Tauri: Ephemeralysis 1:48 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Turn*Key: Two 4:03 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Twice Wilted: Twice The Life 4:28 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Uphollow: Evolution 4:09 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Velcro Overdose: Guilty 1:05 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">The VSS: Death Scene 1:53 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Warlock Pinchers: Introducing Ourselves 5:57 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">World Gone Mad: Over My Head 4:57 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">Wrong Approach: Eclipse 2:47 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">'57 Lesbian: Keith Black's Mummy 2:23 </span></div>
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<span style="color: blue;">'57 Lesbian:Aloha Moose and Squirrel (unreleased bonus track) 3:30 </span></div>
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You can still order the first Denvoid and the Cowtown Punks book from Amazon by clicking <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Denvoid-Cowtown-Punks-Collection-Stories/dp/1495170454" target="_blank">HERE</a>.</div>
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From the forthcoming: Denvoid 2: The Colorado Crew due out in Dec. 2019, a short excerpt from our interview with the Warlock Pinchers. </div>
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My introduction to the Warlock Pinchers came by way of the US Post Office. The band must’ve found my address on the first Donut Crew compilation and mailed me a copy of their self-released, <i>This Is The Cobbler And He Hates Your Bellbottoms</i> EP. Once I got past the title and opened the record that’s when I realized that these guys were waging war on the predictability of punk rock and perhaps music in general. An odd assortment of unrelated items spilled out from the off-registered two-color photocopied sleeve. The mess that laid before me was an absolute labor of love and it had my attention. </div>
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I was curious about the music packed inside those grooves and couldn’t wait to set it on my turntable. The song title that initially caught my attention was, <i>James Dean Is An Overrated Asshole</i>. That needed immediate listening. As the record spun I stared at it completely dumbfounded. I looked at the cover then looked at the record then glancing at the pile of coupons, stickers and whatever else the band shoved in the sleeve. After the first side ended. There was still hope for side 2. Nope. It looked punk, but it sounded like bad rap over distorted noise…an instrument for New World Order torture. Aesthetically, it was the best thing to come out of Denver since the Bum Kon or the Frantix EPs. Maybe even better than Tom Headbanger’s handwritten zines and flyers... </div>
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Interview by: Bob Rob (Medina) and Sonny Kay.<br />
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the band became five permanent members. How did the others join? </span></b></div>
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<span style="color: black; mso-themecolor: text1;">Andrew: I
came in as a percussionist. I would go to the practices and play along with the
drum machine. I was into industrial music, stuff like Psychic TV...I can beat
on metal. I started doing backing vocals because the band came from seven
people where everyone would yell the key words. I would start yelling the key
words. Dan was writing, listing to all this rap and he was writing stuff where
he could switch-off vocals to a tee. He could write something that was way more
complex and play with having two vocalists where you could talk over each
other, line to line and overlap. Dan was writing really cool stuff to
experiment with vocals. </span></div>
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<b><span style="color: black; mso-themecolor: text1;">And Derek?</span></b></div>
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<span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold; mso-themecolor: text1;">Derek:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>This is kind of out of
order, but my first show with WPO was at Penny Lane, and I think we were
opening for Again!, Dave Clifford’s band.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>Bob, I think you were putting on the show, and wouldn’t let me in
without a ticket.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I kept pleading that I
was “in the band,” and you finally rolled your eyes, and said, “yeah, sure” and
let me in.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>That’s the show where we had
a squirt bottle filled with acetone for pyrotechnics, and the outside of it caught
on fire, and then someone stomped on it, and we basically caught Mark’s drums
on fire.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I thought Penny Lane was going
to burn down and that I’d be fired.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>No
more rock n roll fantasy for me.</span></div>
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<span style="color: black; mso-themecolor: text1;">Dan: Our crew
was Smedley's Van and the Warlock Pinchers. We'd try to play shows together
whenever we could. They had a goofy sense of humor like we did, but they were
doing something different musically. </span></div>
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<span style="color: black; mso-themecolor: text1;">Derek: I
think the thing we all had in common was a combination of openness to - and
interest in - everything, but at the same time an initial and total lack of
respect for everything.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Things sucked
unless proven otherwise.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Smedley’s Van
wanted to make a whole album that sounded like Led Zeppelin just to show how
unnecessary Led Zeppelin was.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It turns
out we didn’t have the skills, and somehow ended up writing “Psycho Santa” which
is even more sad because we were trying to recreate “Ghetto Defendant” with the
Allen Ginsberg voice-over stuff (which we loved!).<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>So yeah, a long way of saying we had the same
ethos.</span></div>
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<span style="color: black; mso-themecolor: text1;">Eric: I was a
few years ahead of them at CU. A friend told me that this band the Warlock
Pinchers were playing a party at my old house and that I should go check them
out. It was amazing. Around the same time, I was helping Michelle Clifford out
at the Program Council at CU booking bands at Quigley's. I was up at in the
office of Program Council when Mark came around when the 7" was finished.
Mark gave me a copy. I was always into the punk rock do it yourself thing. I
was booking a show for Steel Pole Bathtub at Quigley's. At the show I told Mark
it would cool to have a band with two bass players. Mark was like, "Well
maybe, yeah." </span></div>
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<span style="color: black; mso-themecolor: text1;">Dan: I wasn't
around for that conversation, but I definitely heard about it after the fact.
Mark said, "We have a show at Quigley's” and the day of the show I got
diagnosed with mono so I couldn't do the show. I couldn't sing. I think that's
the day Eric was talking to Mark about that, because after that Mark goes,
"I was talking to this guy Eric and he wants there to be two bass players
in the band" I went, "Ok" </span></div>
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<span style="color: black; mso-themecolor: text1;">Eric: After
that we practiced in the basement Dan's parents’ house in Louisville. I drove
up, joined in at practice and that was it. </span></div>
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<span style="color: black; mso-themecolor: text1;">Andrew: There
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<span style="color: black; mso-themecolor: text1;">Derek:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Yes, we did overlap for one show!<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Salt Lake at whatever that awesome place
was.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>We were naked except for Brian and
his dog food wrap… I think that’s the trip where I remembered that I forgot my
guitar when we were north of Fort Collins.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>I’m still sorry about that…</span><br />
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lot of people underestimate the influence of the book, <i>Pranks</i> at the
time. It was literally a how-to guide for culture jamming.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></b></div>
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sort of gives you permission to lie and do whatever. Also, trying to get shows
on tour, you had to have a manager. But, of course we can't afford a manager.
No club wants to talk to the guy in the band. So we had a fake manager. His
name was Wil Wheaton. It was ridiculous because no one ever realized that Wil
Wheaton was a child actor. </span></div>
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<span style="color: black; mso-themecolor: text1;">Dan: That
came about by playing with the Butthole Surfers. They had the teen magazine in
their dressing room. They were looking through them and there's all these pages
with Wil Wheaton and their drummer Teresa said Mark looked like Wil. </span></div>
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<span style="color: black; mso-themecolor: text1;">Andrew: Since
we didn't get sued by Tiffany, we weren't going to stop there, let's just say
we got sued by Tiffany. So we made a press release and Wil Wheaton sent it out
to all Denver’s media. We made a fake logo from Tiffany’s manager and put it on
letterheads and everybody called. The Denver Post, Rocky Mountain News, Campus
Press Westword, Colorado Daily...They all called, wanting to interview us. I
had this wall of Tiffany posters and flyers and magazine clippings and I had
Tiffany shoe, which I totally made up. It wasn't her shoe. Yes, I did meet her,
yes, I did interview her. So we fuck-up the interview and it sounds totally
fake and I say I got her shoes which I got on clearance somewhere and I have
this Tiffany stamp from a Columbia House mailer which I licked and put on the
shoe. So I said Tiffany gave me her shoes when I interviewed her because she
didn't want them anymore. It's all true, I'm a Tiffany fan but then I lied
about the shoes for no reason. Lied about things that don't matter. The press
is interviewing us and Wil Wheaton is not around...</span></div>
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Eric interrupts, I’ll just point out at that this point I’m <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">still</b> not in the band, but I’m living
with Mark and Andrew and “Wil”.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>You
can’t imagine how much fun it was to answer the phone, trying to figure out as
fast you could who was trying to call for whom and what to say/do in those
split seconds.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Some kind of crazy chess
game where we got to make up the rules as went along.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I’m still not quite sure how pulling a prank
differs from just being an asshole, but it was a blast.</span></div>
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a good place to interrupt! I had an awkward encounter with Gil Asakawa form
Westword because I was working at Wax Trax then. He came in asking about the
Warlock Pinchers because they just got the press release and he was all hot to
write this story about sticking up for the little guy. He was asking me and I
was trying not to let him know I was in the band. It was actually Mike Serviolo
who told him to talk to me. He asked me about Wil. So I had to face-to-face lie
to him about Wil Wheaton. I told him "I don't know where he is." I
guess I lied well enough because Gil's Westword story was one of the few to go
to press before the lid came off our scam.</span></div>
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Bob Rob Medinahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05818604452391830233noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1007449741570868085.post-65204731575168659642019-05-16T02:48:00.001-07:002019-05-16T05:34:46.910-07:00Denvoid 2: Keith Curts (Echo Beds, Fauxgazi, Junkdrawer, Subpoena The Past, Glass Hits)<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
Denvoid and the Cowtown Punks Volume 2: The Colorado Crew is coming out this year. Really it is. Sonny Kay and I have been slowly chipping away at it over the past 3-4 years. The problem is that this is a hobby and often takes a backseat to our jobs and families. On my end, living in Alexandria, Egypt makes calling folks across the pond tricky. Additionally, I'm in the process of relocating to Abu Dhabi for work; there are plenty of balls in motion. <br />
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I'm obsessed with this project and feel lucky when I'm able to set aside chunks of time towards completing it even if it entails transcribing interviews in the front seat of a car on the way to Cairo. My bigger problem is that I want to include everyone and don't know when to stop. Typically, I interview one person and usually go, "Ohh, I should also interview this other person" and it avalanches from there. So here we are. forty plus interviews later and we're STILL hunting down the last couple of folks. As the project has expanded beyond the initial vision, it will easily overshadow the first <a href="https://bobrobart.bigcartel.com/product/denvoid-and-the-cowtown-punks-option-1" target="_blank">Denvoid book</a> in its massiveness (and star power) not to mention tons of artwork, photographs, flyers, etc. Unfortunately, not every band from that period (1988-1996) will be interviewed, but we are being conscious to include them in one form or another.<br />
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Q: When will Denvoid 2 be reseased?<br />
A: Mid-December 2019. Not the ideal time, but it's the time I can get away from Abu Dhabi. We are contacting people to try and make this a special release. Ideally, we like to devote a weekend to this event with bands playing at different venues around Denver. My goal will be to release excerpts of interviews each week until the book release.<br />
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This first installment features Keith Curts. I've had the pleasure to play music with Keith from 1994-96 with both Junkdrawer and Llamas NoVa. When I met Keith in 1992 he was just starting out, I had seen his first band, So Far Gone play. The band was young, but everyone involved had an intense energy to them...although their set was technically sloppy, it was played with passion and sincerity and that's what mattered. They were heavily influenced by the DC sound that had pretty much infected every corner of the country - even in Longmont where So Far Gone was hatched from.<br />
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Keith's next band, Junkdrawer made room for me after I returned from living a year in Birmingham, Alabama. We played out often and even survived a three-week summer tour of the southwest and west coast. After Junkdrawer called it quits: Keith, along with Patricia Kavanaugh (Harriet The Spy), Sean Watson (Savalas drummer #3), Mark Bradin (Savalas drummer #2) and I didn't waste any time in forming Llama NoVa. It should be noted that Tim Nakari (Small Dog Frenzy) played in the second incarnation of Llamas NoVa.<br />
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In 1996 Keith left Colorado for the bay area and played in a few band there including
<span style="color: black; font-family: "times new roman"; font-size: 12.0pt;">Subpoena
The Past</span>
with Sonny. Upon his return a decade later he played in: Glass Hits, Fauxgazi (A Fugazi cover band that went on tour - check out the documentary <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QZd2iKnFdE" target="_blank">here</a> and of course his latest project Echo Beds.<br />
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Keith caught the playing music bug early and never stopped. He had always pushed himself to learn and grow in his endeavors. Always humble, approachable, and easy to strike-up a conversation with. Enjoy the excerpts of the interview.<br />
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Interviewed by Bob Rob (Medina)<br />
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<span style="color: black; font-family: "times new roman";">There
was our band and New Breed who was Andy Lefton on Bass, Jared Allen on guitar,
Matt Sandau sang, and Mike McNaughton on drums. Mike eventually ended up in
Linus. There was also a crossover metal band kinda like DRI, called Salacious
Crumb. This guy Nick played with them and Jason Barlowe. Jason ended up playing
bass in Linus. So there was this thread throughout the Longmont scene. There
was another band with Mark Risius and Andy Brazycki and a couple of other
people, they would go through different names changes, Fahrenheit 451 was one
of their names at one point. There was also Caste who was Will Welty, Dan
Parris, Pete Lyman along with Mike McNaughton. Mike and I went to high school
together and he was the first one who turned me on to things like Godflesh and
Nitzer Ebb. You know, I remember in 9th grade I was getting turned on to so
many different things and it kind of kept going. Then you have this moment
trying to figure out your music identity; Am I a new waver? Am I a punk rocker?
You don't realize it's all under the same umbrella. Then you start putting it
all together, like Godflesh is kind of a punk band, kind of an industrial band,
kind of a metal band...</span><span style="font-family: "times new roman";"></span></div>
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<span style="color: black; font-family: "times new roman";">The
few of us would take a bus into Boulder to catch a Savalas shows. We'd see
people from Dead Silence walking around and that was weird because we were from
this little podunk town and Boulder seemed like it was so much more grown-up
because it had more of a scene. We looked-up to that. Seeing some of those
bands were life changing, to get to experience Savalas, Belljar, Dig, Small Dog
Frenzy… That was out big city experience. (laughs) </span><span style="font-family: "times new roman";"></span></div>
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<span style="color: black; font-family: "times new roman";">We
would play in Jeb's dad's garage or like my parent’s basement when they went
out of town and my step brother wasn't home. We’d play in other people's living
rooms. I remember playing a show at a grange hall in Lafayette. The Offspring
and G’rups played there at one point. We had local shows there too. We weren't
a good band. At least I felt like I wasn't a good part of that band. (laughs).
It was the thought that counted.</span><span style="font-family: "times new roman";"></span></div>
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<b><span style="color: black; font-family: "times new roman";">I
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<span style="color: black; font-family: "times new roman";">Oh
yeah! We did play that show because it was recorded! We played with Belljar and
Dig. It was Dig's last show because their guitarist, Ken Smallwood was moving
back to the East Coast. I vividly remember Brian Gathy smashing his bass into
pieces, like splinters because he was so distraught that the band was ending.
Later, I got to know Brian and understood that was how he was... I had never experienced
anything like that before. I had never witnessed that kind of emotion that
connected with music. I didn't get to see bands like Rites of Spring. I know
Brian did since he was from DC. Watching Brian that night, I just connected
with that. And Belljar’s set - Grant Gutherie just fucking wailing. That was an
amazing time.</span><span style="font-family: "times new roman";"></span></div>
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<span style="color: black; font-family: "times new roman";">Like
with So Far Gone, we didn't know what we were doing. We didn't do it long
enough to actually get good at it. It wasn't like you listen to a bunch of
records and then try to figure out how to play like that. We just played. There
was no artifice and no roadmap. Dan turned me on to a lot of the Dischord
stuff, “emo stuff” that just rang a bell with me. I immediately became inspired
by all that stuff, but I couldn't play like that. We just all started playing.
Andy Rothbard and Jeb had been friends forever, there were like fifteen when we
started the band, I was 17, and Dan was 19. It really was a collaboration, a
sum of its parts where everyone came in with something different. It was like
creation for creation sake. That was it, it was really liberating to just play.
The beauty of youth, not yet looking through the microscope.</span><span style="font-family: "times new roman";"></span></div>
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<b><span style="color: black; font-family: "times new roman";">Reflecting
back on the on that show at the ballet studio, it's funny how some people had
that “holy shit” moment seeing Brian smash his bass. I saw the appeal of
witnessing someone shattering an instrument because they were consumed by the
moment. I can tell you for certain that Sonny and I had a different “holy shit”
moment as in, "Fuck, Savalas is about to head out on a three-week tour AND
fucking Brian just smashed his bass. You know, we were like, “What an asshole.”
(laughs)</span></b><span style="font-family: "times new roman";"></span></div>
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<span style="color: black; font-family: "times new roman";">Savalas
was really good, you guys were older and knew how to play your instruments. You
played shows, toured, had shirts with Chris Shary's artwork! If Chris Shary is
doing you artwork that really meant something...Take this as a compliment,
because it is, I never met anyone with tattoos before (laughs). Seriously, we
looked up to you guys. We were like, "These guys know what's up."
We're just fumbling around in the dark over here and that's fine because I'm
seventeen and I'm allowed to do that. So I get it that you and Sonny were being
practical while we were looking at Brian in awe. </span></div>
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<b><span style="color: black; font-family: "times new roman";">I
don't remember if we played after the Shudder To Think show. I didn't know if
the recording was before or after the Shudder show, but I think that was it for
the band.</span></b><span style="font-family: "times new roman";"></span></div>
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<span style="color: black; font-family: "times new roman";">So
we have to talk a little bit about that too. At least just touch on it. There
was a weird backlash between what was punk and what wasn't. That was a strain
for our band, it wasn't like we were careering or on the fast track. It was
around that time that some punk bands were getting picked up by bigger labels
like Shudder To Think, Samiam...</span><span style="font-family: "times new roman";"></span></div>
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<span style="color: black; font-family: "times new roman";">And
that Shudder To Think show was being boycotted by some of our friends because
it wasn't punk enough!? It wasn't a punk show? Huh, that really like
confused me. I thought what we were doing was a punk band. The fact that we did
it ourselves and didn't rely on anyone else. We wrote everything ourselves. You
booked everything pretty much. It was all us, but that somehow wasn't punk
enough. It kind of was a kick in the nuts, you know. </span><span style="font-family: "times new roman";"></span></div>
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<b><span style="color: black; font-family: "times new roman";">It
was disheartening and reflecting back on it, it was petty. The whole DIY thing
got really out of control, it was like the absurdity in the DIY culture that
the TV show, <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Portlandia</i> lampoons.
When did punk start having rules, that's kind of an oxymoron. Who gives a shit if
we played a $7 show? </span></b><span style="font-family: "times new roman";"></span></div>
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Bob Rob Medinahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05818604452391830233noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1007449741570868085.post-47015281484515743202017-09-14T00:11:00.000-07:002017-09-14T00:23:29.927-07:00Colorado Krew 2 update and more! <div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
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<span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;">Sorry for the long absence, here's an update on our new
project(s):<span> </span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;">Denvoid 2-The Colorado Krew: Tales From the Colorado Punk
Scene 1988-96. Longtime friend/former bandmate/roommate, Sonny Kay will
co-author and bring in his insights and role in the scene. We've been
feverishly slaving away collecting materials, interviewing people, and making
the artwork for it. We will be releasing bits and pieces every week. Also,
we've been working with History Colorado Center about having our book release
event there (with live music?) in late 2018 as they gear up for their awesome
Colorado Music History exhibit in 2019. Exciting times are on the horizon. </span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span></span>In the meantime, I
will be traveling to Denver to talk to a class at DU on Colorado Punk and
hosting a panel discussion at Mutiny Information Cafe, 2 South Broadway, Denver
on October 26 at 7:30 pm with:<span> </span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;">Jill “Razer” Mustoffa (promoter)<span> </span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;">Arnie Beckman (Choosey Mothers)<span> </span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;">Andrew Novick (Warlock Pinchers) </span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span></span>Jason Heller
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<span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;">Tom Murphy (former Westword music columnist)</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><i>Sonny Kay is a graphic
artist and illustrator, punk rock vocalist (Angel Hair, The VSS, Year Future),
record label founder (Gold Standard Laboratories), and underground music icon.
Beginning in the early nineties, his cut-and-paste flyer making gradually
evolved into designing album covers, and by 2007 he was mastering a graphic
technique all his own, crafting seamless, painting-like collages, often on
behalf of some of the most colorful names in rock music, such as: THE MARS
VOLTA, THE LOCUST, RX BANDITS, THE GLITCH MOB, AND SO I WATCH YOU FROM AFAR and
311, to name a few. Ranging from the provocative to the surreal to the
incomprehensible, Kay's work is true to his anti-authoritarian nature while
often exploring themes of higher consciousness, multi-dimensionality, and so on.
HEADSPACES is the first book of his work. Packed with nearly 200 images, it's
an exhaustive collection of high-definition, mind-bending collage art new and
old, featuring many previously unpublished works, and of course, covers to a
lot of albums.</i><span><i> </i> </span></span></span></div>
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poet living in Santa Barbara, CA, originally from Atlanta, GA. He was involved
for many years in Atlanta’s underground rock scene as singer and lyricist for
the bands Car vs Driver, Chocolate Kiss and Sonn Av Krusher. His first
anthology, Patterns of Reconciliation, is comprised of select poems written
between 1993 and 2017, and is organized around themes such as coming-of-age,
trauma, love, mourning, depression, anxiety, relationships, enlightenment,
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<div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "times";"><i>During the summer of 1988, I went on my first ever rock-n-roll tour with a band. Below is the tale of wide-eyed teens and musical instruments crammed into two vehicles traveling through the midwest and east coast. Still available: <b>Denvoid and the Cowtown Punks: A Collection of Stories From the '80s Denver Punk Scene </b>Click on the link to order a copy. <a href="http://bobrobart.bigcartel.com/">http://bobrobart.bigcartel.com</a><b><a href="http://bobrobart.bigcartel.com/" target="_blank"> </a> </b></i></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "times"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">The <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Acid Pigs/Short Fuse</i> split EP was
released in the spring of 1988. <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Maximum
RocknRoll </i>gave the record a favorable review, plus Kaleidoscope and
Caroline-two East Coast companies were distributing it. Since I had established
a few East Coast connections, I thought it would be ideal for both bands to hit
the road together. I brought up the idea of a Midwest/East Coast tour with
Arnold, who played guitar in both bands. He was into it. After we convinced all
the members of both bands to suspend their normal lives for the month of July,
I devoted the remainder of late spring to booking our tour by calling and
sending out promo kits to prospective clubs and promoters. The method behind my
madness would be to cram eight people plus instruments into a Ford Bronco and
an old VW van. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "times"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">The <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Acid Pigs/Short Fuse Summer of 88 East Coast</i>
tour started with a hiccup; Short Fuse’s vocalist Todd was scheduled to fly into
Denver’s Stapleton International Airport at 6:30 on the eve of our first show.
Once he arrived, the plan was to pull an all-nighter and drive to Lawrence,
Kansas. After waiting around for a bit, an announcement over the intercom
informed us his flight would be delayed an hour. By the time 8:00 rolled around,
the gate agent announced the flight had been diverted to Colorado Spring and
was scheduled to land around 9:00. The agent assured us the passengers would be
bussed to Denver.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "times"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">The coach bus
finally pulled into the airport parking lot a little after 11:00. Todd, with his
meager carry-on bag, was ready to hit the road. We got into the Bronco and
headed east on the stormy I-70 for the next nine hours. We were both wired from
dining on Gatorade and sugary snacks from gas station gourmet isles. The drive
was quiet with an occasional stretch of rain showers and lightning storms on
the distant and flat horizon. <o:p></o:p></span><span style="font-family: times;">We played padiddle, the road game that involves looking for trucks and cars with one headlight then punching your opponent in the arm to curb our boredom. </span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span data-preserver-spaces="true" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; color: #0e101a; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;">Daylight broke just as we pulled into the sleepy college town of Lawrence. The air was thick, and the ground was still wet from the previous night's rain. We were both beat, and all we wanted to do was stretch out and catch a little sleep. After crawling through downtown, Todd spotted a park with a gazebo. I commented that we had just stepped into an episode of </span><em style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; color: #0e101a; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;">The Andy Griffith Show</em><span data-preserver-spaces="true" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; color: #0e101a; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;">. We parked, found our pillows, and slept under the shade and safety of the gazebo until later that morning.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "times"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">In the early afternoon, we headed over to The Outhouse, the club we would be playing at later that night. We were scheduled to open for the seminal SoCal punk band, The Vandals. The Outhouse is an infamous, tiny, one-room structure converted into a club a few miles outside of town in the middle of a cornfield. The Acid Pigs had already arrived by the time we showed up. They told Todd and me they had found young pot plants in the back of the club. A couple of Acid Pigs drove to the convenience store down the road to nuke the plants in a microwave to dry the leaves to smoke them. It was a long and hot summer day with little else to do. The excitement didn't get underway until The Vandals arrived in their posh Winnebago. They introduced themselves and handed us a brick of bottle rockets to fire them off at each other in the parking lot. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "times"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">After loading in,
Short Fuse set up on stage last because we were the opening band. Our soundcheck was horrible. I walked out of the club around dusk, and there were a
couple of skinheads acting as sentries, standing on the wooden posts waving
American flags at the entrance to the club.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
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<span style="font-family: "times"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">By the time we hit the stage, it was dark and 80 degrees with punishing humidity. The heat made us insane; we played like demons writhing on the ground drenched with sweat. The Acid Pigs played a rocking set. After the show, we met some people who were having a party at their house, and they offered to let us stay there. Everyone in the bands slept well, and we woke up to a hearty breakfast prepared by our host. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "times"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">The following afternoon, we loaded up our vehicles and said our goodbyes. The Acid Pigs needed gas and pulled into a nearby station. After filling up then waiting to cross the intersection to catch up with us, a motorcycle behind them impatiently tried to pass. Unfortunately, their VW bus sideswiped the bike. The doomed motorcyclist lay on the ground unconscious, bleeding from the head wound; Jack of The Acid Pigs took off his shirt and wrapped it around the guy. The police and the ambulance finally arrived and rushed the cyclist to the hospital. The roadie/driver roadie was issued a ticket. This incident set the tone for the remainder of the tour.</span><br />
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>Mini tour stickers posted on gas pumps and in payphones booths across America. </i></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>Collection of Author.</i></span></div><div style="font-size: 13px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i><br /></i></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "times"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">We finally
escaped Lawrence during rush hour and headed into the darkness of I-70. Hours
later, outside of St. Louis on the opposite westbound lanes, Todd and I spotted
the burning cab of a semi-truck with the silhouette of the trapped driver
inside among the flames. It was a terrible sight. We coined our tour as “The
Tour of Death.” We pulled into town and met up with the other van. It was time
to put this day behind us. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "times"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">None of us had
ever been to St. Louis, so we thought we should visit the Gateway Arch and
check out record stores. I wanted to get a pulse on what people did at night
for fun. One record store employee told me he and his friends watch the folks
in East St. Louis use the wood from boarded-up buildings to burn the city down.
I waited for the punch line; he never flinched or offered a half-crooked smile.
When we left later that evening, we drove east towards the glow of a fire on the
horizon. Another wooden building gone, I thought. The record store clerk wasn’t
bullshitting after all. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "times"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">It was onwards through Illinois, Indiana, and up north to Toledo where "Toledo" Pat was anxiously waiting for our arrival. He and longtime scenester John Stain had booked a show for us, but the venue had fallen through. So Pat scrambled and spent all day trying to find a hall and pleading with people to throw a house party. He eventually convinced a friend, Sinbad, to let us play in his basement.</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span style="font-family: times;"><br /></span>
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<span style="font-family: "times"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">The house show
was in full swing, minus the brief glitch when the boys in blue stopped by. It
was the place to be that Friday night. Pat did a superb job getting the word
out and passing out copies of our music. Several people knew our songs, and we
played a solid set that night. This would be the best show on the tour. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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The Tour of Death continued in Toledo when we crawled past, rubbernecking like
the other cars in front of us, yet another accident. This time the injuries and
fatalities were within arms’ reach. It should have been an indication to turn
back; the perpetual gloom and carnage were beginning to weigh in. This was
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night was Detroit. The show came about because we had help from Joe “Hardcore”
Picolli, a longtime Detroit scenester, and his brother of Jerome, the original
vocalist of The Acid Pigs. The club was called Blondie’s - primarily a
heavy metal club on the edge of what seemed like a war zone. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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rough town. While I was out picking up a bottle of Gatorade at one of the
convenience stores near the club, I experienced my first opportunity to place
money into a revolving drawer at a counter completely enclosed by two-inch-thick Plexiglas. A couple of other places we wandered past barred the entrance
into the store altogether; you had to ask and point for what you wanted, hand
the cashier money through a slot, and then you’d receive your item(s)
through a cage-like structure. It could have been a scene from a
post-apocalyptic film. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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opened the show, followed by The Acid Pigs, Dave of the Pigs was stoked to be
playing on the same stage that some of his favorite heavy metal bands had
played on. After our set, I was outside in the driver’s seat of the Bronco,
going over paperwork when a huge black guy with a deep gash in his forehead and
blood running down the sides of his face put his head on the hood. He looked at
me, shouted a couple of words, then stumbled off into the darkness. I
cautiously walked back into the club to catch a couple of songs from the
headlining band Ugly But Proud. Accompanying them on stage was a vagrant submissively
seated in a chair while the band played its loud and aggressive metal-influenced
punk. The band kept the man supplied with a brown paper bag of tallboy-sized beers
as payment for his mascot services. When he finished one can, a band member would hand him another. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "times"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">We returned to Toledo for a couple of days before heading towards Philadelphia. Todd's parents lived on the outskirts near Doylestown. The Acid Pigs' van was typically somewhere behind us and somewhat in the vicinity. They were a little more adventuresome and would disappear for days at a time until it was time to meet up for a show. Although we were on tour together, they existed as a separate entity. Our drummer, Warren, was like a kid with two parents who shared joint custody. He would spend half the time with us if he thought he could squeeze a bed and shower out of the deal, but he would tag along with The Acid Pigs for the party component. He was probably the smartest guy between both groups. </span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span style="font-family: "times"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><br /></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "times"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Since we were
within throwing distance of Trenton, New Jersey, Todd, Warren, and I drove over
to meet up with concert promoter/booking agent Randy Now. Randy was hosting a
radio show on the Princeton campus. He invited us to the station for an
interview and spun our record. We asked about jumping on a bill at City
Gardens. Unfortunately, we were a week late. He could have put us on the D.O.A.,
ALL, Government Issue show if I had called him earlier. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "times"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Regarding our impeding
suburban Philly show put together by Todd’s friend Jeff. Jeff was the frontman
for the straight edge band Multiple Choice. The venue was Jeff’s family’s barn
a couple of townships away from where we were staying. The barn also doubled as
sleeping quarters for The Acid Pigs. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "times"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">The show was booked for a Sunday afternoon. Unfortunately, Arnold hit the bottle early, so he could barely stand by the time we attempted to play. We took a stab at running through a couple of songs, but the frustration quickly escalated into fisticuffs. Arnold threw his guitar down and swung in my direction while yelling at me. His rage was the collective anger and irritation from how the tour was unraveling. Shows kept falling through; everyone was running out of money and patience. In retrospect, I did a shoddy job with the booking, and in the end, let down those who had relied on me. <o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "times"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">We left the
farm and drove to New York City, exploring Manhattan through the car windows for
a couple of hours. Warren had a friend outside the city in Peekskill willing to
put us up for the night. When we arrived, there was something odd about the
kid; he seemed distant and lifeless. We gathered around the kitchen table with
his friend’s father, and they started talking about the numerous car accidents
his son had been in. Warren’s friend showed us his scars. It turned out the
accidents involved drugs. The father just sat there with a look of
disappointment and detachment. He interacted with his son like he had given up
on him. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "times"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">We went out
later that night to meet up with the kid’s friends. It was what you might
expect from a gathering of bored and disenchanted suburban youth: lots of
drinking and rampant drug use with reckless abandonment. We were parked on the
cliff overlooking train tracks going into the city. A couple of the kids were
carelessly swinging off the dead electrical and telephone wires hanging over
the cliff. Everyone continued drinking and getting high while Todd and I
watched in disbelief. Then, out of the darkness, I heard someone call out “Bob Rob”
and when I turned around, it was a former high school classmate. We talked maybe
five minutes before calling it a night.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "times"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Todd and I
were ready to bail on this depressing, life-sucking shithole. When we returned
to Warren’s friend’s house, we were told how Stephen King based the book <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Cujo</i> on the kid’s dogs and warned us
about the rats in the basement. When Warren went upstairs to stay in his
friend’s room, Todd and I half-joked about which one of us was going to sleep
outside in the Bronco. Neither of us wanted to sleep in the basement. It was
pitch black with no outside light seeping in. We lay flat on the couches with
our eyes wide open, taking in all the strange sounds. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "times"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">The following day
was no better. We spent the first part of the afternoon meeting up with a few
more of the kid’s friends. We drove to a nearby park so they could score and
smoke crack. Afterward they took us for a drive on the winding roads. All I
could think about was the accidents the boy’s father had mentioned the evening
before. We ended up at a party, but Todd and I just hung out in the car
listening to tapes. Warren was throwing a fit because we were acting antisocial.
We went off on him and made it clear we were leaving that night. We drove to a
payphone, and I called my friend Mark, the drummer for the band Slapshot to see
if we could crash at his place in Boston. He made a few calls and put me in
touch with Hank, the band’s roadie. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "times"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">The initial
hope for traveling to Boston was for a tentative show, followed by what would perhaps
be our biggest gig at the Anthrax in New Haven, Connecticut, opening for DC’s
Ignition. Todd, Warren, and I arrived in Boston late in the evening. Hank got
us settled before going out. The three of us were beat; we decided to call it a
night. We slept on the floor in the living room and the kitchen. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "times"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Indicative of our streak of bad luck, the Boston show didn't materialize, plus The Anthrax show was a couple of days away, and we still hadn't heard from Arnold and the other van. We were worried, considering the numerous accidents we had witnessed. I finally attempted to call Arnold's mom, but without success. The day before the show, I started calling every couple of hours. Finally, well into the evening, eventually, someone answered; it was Arnold on the other end. After a short moment of silence on my end, Arnold matter-of-factly said that he and The Pigs were done touring and had decided to return home. I hung up in disbelief. I walked around Kenmore Square, looking for Todd and Warren to tell them the news</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "times"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">From the time we arrived in Boston, we had befriended a guy and hung out with him. We told him our sob story about the tour falling apart. He jumped at the opportunity to get on board with us and offered to play guitar for our Anthrax show. We drove over to his practice space and played him our record. We unsuccessfully attempted to belt out a couple of tunes. It wasn't the same without Arnold, so we decided it was pointless to force the matter. I called the promoter of the Anthrax and left a message that we were canceling the show and the rest of the tour. I also phoned other promoters to relay the same story. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "times"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">Todd phoned
home the same evening and asked his dad, a TWA pilot, to hook him up with a
one-way flight back to Philly. The following afternoon, Warren and I drove Todd
to Logan International. Now it was only the two of us left with a Bronco packed
full of band equipment. Warren and I decided to leave for Denver the following
morning. Practically broke, we killed the afternoon bumming around. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "times"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">The plan was to meet up with "Slapshot" Mark after work and stay at his house. However, that plan was hijacked when I tried to start the Bronco to the sound of a faint buzz. We ruled out the battery since it had been replaced the week before. Luckily Mark came to our rescue with jumper cables. While following him back to his place, the Bronco started to lose power, and by the time we entered a tunnel, the car died completely. Mark continued driving, never to be seen again. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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the car mechanic asked a bunch of questions about the equipment in the back of
the Bronco. He wanted to know if we were in a famous band and what sort of
music we played. We didn’t dare say punk. He asked if we sounded like Aerosmith
or The J. Giles Band, two of Boston’s finest, right? The diagnosis was that the
electrical system in the Bronco was fried, and it would take him a couple of
days to replace it. He and his buddy both laughed at and taunted us for driving
a Ford and suggested we buy a Chevy next time. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "times"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">We were
stranded. I began selling off a couple of rare records I had picked up along the
way just to feed Warren and me. We were emotionally spent and didn’t leave
Hank’s house. My dad wired me $500 for the repairs. When the car was finished
on the following afternoon, Warren and I didn't waste any time; we were westbound on I-90 towards
Toledo. We arrived in the middle of the night, and I called “Toledo” Pat who
had set us up to stay with Dirk from the band Majority Of One. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "times"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">The following
morning, Warren and I made a pact to drive straight back to Denver, no matter
what. The only downside was that Warren didn’t drive. We only stopped for fuel
and Gatorade. By the time we were in the middle of Nebraska, my eyes couldn’t take looking down the stretch of the interstate any longer. I was losing my mind and seeing double. We pulled into a
rest stop so I could regain a bit of sanity with a few hours of sleep on a
picnic table. Warren’s allergies didn’t allow him any rest. He shook
me in a panic, telling me that he couldn’t breathe. We hit the road without A/C
and the windows rolled up because of his allergies. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">Edited by Rory Eubank.</span></i></div>
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Bob Rob Medinahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05818604452391830233noreply@blogger.com6tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1007449741570868085.post-88816604478456352292015-11-24T06:00:00.000-08:002015-11-24T10:41:09.716-08:00Donut Crew Records-After School Special <div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">We’re just a Donut Crew</span></i></b><br />
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">Releasing<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"> </i>the<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"> Colorado Krew</i> 7” EP was an exercise to
test the waters, to explore the viability of starting and maintaining a record
label that documented what my friends and I were doing music wise. The 7”
format for putting out music was a relatively inexpensive undertaking with
minimal financial risks. 500 copies of the <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Colorado
Krew</i> including mastering, covers, and inserts, ended up costing a little
over $500. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">My friends and I had been anticipating the box of records
arriving. Rich would call every evening to get an update, asking the collective
question, “Have they arrived yet?” My response always resulted in
disappointment on both ends of the line. Rich reminded me he had his troops
ready to send over for a folding party. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">Finally, the day came when UPS left a big box at my front
door. With one phone call and no hesitation, later that evening Rich and
company were spread out on my bedroom floor folding covers and inserts. Holding
a finished product in hand made it feel like we had accomplished something. We
felt like our music was legitimized from that moment forward, and the records
was the documentation to prove it. I don’t think there was a person on the record
over 19 years old, with the youngest being 14 or 15. The big question was: How
were we going to get rid of 500 records?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">It should be noted that during the late 80s and early 90s,
releasing a 7” record was almost as common as waking up in the morning and
walking to the toilet. Practically anyone who played in a band had a record
out. While putting out music helped give bands exposure, record collectors
scooped up vinyl from unknown groups, hoping to discover what might be the next
underground sensation and/or the next collectable. Distributors were privy to
the hype collectors were carving out in the punk scene; they hoped to get in on
the action.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Several distributors called
and sent me letters asking to carry my catalog long before records were
reviewed or in many instances, released. It was like punk rockers were infected
with a fever to grab ahold of everything new coming out.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">Donut Crew was one of the labels mixed in with a bunch other
newbies at the onset of the 7” craze. We were a very minor dot on the map of
the record label business. From 1988-90, I was only able to release seven
titles. By comparison, more established labels like Dischord and Touch and Go were
constantly releasing sought-after new titles. Big or small, anyone running an
independent label wanted to make his mark. Similar to publishing a fanzine,
making records put you in the company of like-minded people in a global arena
committed to the DIY punk ethos.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">Two significant labels from the class of 1988 were
Revelation Records out of New York, and Nemesis in Long Beach. Like Donut Crew,
the pair was regional in promoting their local music scene, much like Amphetamine
Reptile in the Midwest and Sub Pop in Seattle embarked upon a couple of years
earlier in 1986.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">In response to the blooming 7” craze, in late 1988, Sub Pop
seized the opportunity and started a singles of the month club.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Meanwhile, titles on Revelation Records were
going out of print and becoming collectable as soon as they were released.
Revelation had exemplified the art of making represses equally as collectable
with slight variations to the cover and color vinyl pressings. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">With Donut Crew, my main ambition was to give exposure to
Denver bands while hoping to recoup my costs so I could release the next
record. Fortunately, a couple of titles went into a second pressing, only
delaying the inevitable. I always felt like a salesman banging and scratching
at people’s virtual doors carrying around a vintage 45 box filled with vinyl. I
would go to shows, malls, coffee houses, and any hangout spots punk kids
gathered hoping to pawn off a couple of records. Shops like Wax Trax, Trade-A-Tape,
and Albums On the Hill were always kind enough to take my releases and pay
cash. On the other hand, dealing with distributors became one perpetual game of
chasing down checks before they could bounce. Though most companies eventually
made good on their word, a couple simply skipped out, conveniently lost
paperwork, and seldom returned phone calls and/or letters. The primary reason
Donut Crew folded was rooted in the losses incurred by distributors gone
bankrupt-morally or financially.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">In the post-Donut Crew era of the early to mid 90s, the 7”
record market was flooded, and many titles fell by the wayside, ending up in
bargain bins for pennies on the dollar. I recall rescuing a couple of the
titles I put out for less than what they cost me to make. It made me feel
slightly sad to see them tucked amongst other once hopeful, but forgotten
records. If anything, running the label was a testament and a snap shot of a
moment during our youth.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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and borrowed from Neal Wallace, my former high school art teacher. While I was
preparing the front and back covers to bring to the local print shop, I
realized I didn’t have a suitable front cover image. What was the solution to
the problem? Easy, pay a visit my former high school and score artwork. I
stopped by Mr. Wallace’s room and asked if he had any pictures laying around that
I could use? (He acted somewhat surprised that I was attempting to do something
productive after graduation.) He pulled out a photograph of downtown Denver,
and perhaps out of desperation, it felt like the right image. The plan for the
back cover was to invite all the bands on the record to meet on the steps of
the Denver State Capitol Building for a group shot. End of Story endured a
three-hour drive from Glenwood Springs to be included. One of their band
members asked why we didn’t have a show since everyone had come down. Good
fucking question!<!--EndFragment--></span></span><br />
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<span style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">Matrix/Runout (Side 1): </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "helvetica";">R-11493 DCR-001-A Piss Club</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;"> (Side 2): </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "helvetica";">R-11494 DCR-001-B Bob Rob The Donut God</span><br />
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guitarist of my former band Idiots Revenge. It was supposed to be our t-shirt
design, but it never materialized. I thought it was a great drawing and had worried
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">The Acid Pigs had recently kicked out “Jet” Bart so Arnold
assumed vocal duties. All the tracks on the record were recorded by Arnold
using his 4-track tape deck in the basement of his mom’s house. Beer’s Gone was actually a serious
problem since members of both bands heavily consumed large quantities of the
beverage. As for Short Fuse, the band was Arnold’s alter ego for writing tuneful
melodic songs, songs that didn’t fit Acid Pigs’ gritty repertoire. Warren was the
drumless drummer of Short Fuse who lucked out one evening by spotting a badly
beaten set laying next to a dumpster. The two bands toured the East Coast in a
VW Van and Ford Bronco in the summer of 1988.<i> <o:p></o:p></i></span><br />
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<span style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">Matrix/Runout (Side 1): </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "helvetica";">DCR-002-A Bernie McCall Lives!</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "helvetica";"> </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;"> (Side 2): </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "helvetica";">DCR-002-B Never* buy* a Short Fuse - [drawing of Hardcorey] SORRY JET - REFER TO OTHER SIDE [drawing of Slammy]</span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">Again! side: <i><o:p></o:p></i></span></div>
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Keep In Mind side:<i><o:p></o:p></i></div>
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1. <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Not Sure</i><o:p></o:p></div>
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3. <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Out Of Reach</i><o:p></o:p></div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: small;"><i>DCR 003 Again!/Keep In Mind split 7" EP cover</i></span></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: small;"><i>Alternant Keep In Mind covers. </i></span></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: small;"><i>Original artwork for the Again! Lyric sheet insert. </i></span></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: small;"><i>Original artwork for the Keep In Mind insert. </i></span></td></tr>
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Dischord Records. With that in mind, Dave Clifford from Again! designed a Donut
Crew logo to replicate Dischord’s. We considered it tongue-in-cheek at the
time, but like many of our concepts, we were basically biting off of bands and
people we respected. In retrospect, I felt like Donut Crew lacked originality
design wise… and maybe the best input I had in developing an aesthetic for the
label was my terrible ability to spell words correctly. I knew my spelling was
a running joke with the bands I worked with. I think someone mentioned that
each Donut Crew release came with a built in game of searching for misspelled
words. I couldn’t disagree with the criticism; it was the truth. The permanent
Donut Crew logo came by way of Chris Johnson. Chris was a sailor in the US Navy
who had mail-ordered a couple of the releases. While he was out at sea, he made
a handful of drawings and sent them to me with a letter stating that I could
use what I wanted. In trade, I sent him a shirt and anything featuring his
artwork. <span style="font-style: italic;"> </span><i><o:p></o:p></i></span><br />
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">Notes: This was more Rich’s project. He was publishing his
fanzine, <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Skate Edge</i> and wanted to
release records. I agreed to pitch in financially to help Rich get his band’s
record out. What really put <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Skate Edge</i>
on the map was releasing Brotherhood’s <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">No
Tolerance For Ignorance</i> EP. Rich was always an independent spirit and had
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">Matrix/Runout (Side 1) </span>SER-001-A Ken belongs to the spanglorian society. Eat Pop Tarts and read Skate Edge. (Side 2): SER-001-B The most important things in life can't be bought - with exception to this record.</div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: small;"><i>Colordao Krew II-The Kids Will Have Their Donuts 7" EP cover for second pressing. Red vinyl.</i></span></td></tr>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: small;">Notes: Some of the blue covers stated: “Root beer-colored
vinyl.” It was a double meaning: color vinyl was all the rage, so we being
cheeky about the craze. Secondly, the color of the vinyl was a translucent brown
when held up to the light. In fact, it looked like a glass of root beer. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: small;">The story about the quickly made photocopied cover was the
result of a delay with the real covers being printed. I needed to get the records
in the bins at Wax Trax, so I put together something haphazard. In retrospect,
it was an impulsive and shortsighted decision; I cringe each time I’m reminded
of it. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: small;">The final cover for the EP is an image of kids storming the
steps of the state capitol. It was a blatant rip off of Society System
Decontrol’s <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">The Kids Will Have Their Say</i>
12” EP, but ours had a donut theme, so to say, a donut edge! By no means were
we dissing SSD; we meant it more as a nod to their greatness. Imitation is the
sincerest form of flattery, right? <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: small;">After finishing our front cover photo shoot, someone in the
group spotted the then Colorado governor, Roy Romer, leaving the capitol and
heading towards his car. I immediately thought we needed a picture with him. We
eagerly charged in his direction, cutting him off before he reached his car
door. Based on our excitement, Romer granted our request for a group shot. That
WAS be the crowning image to grace the back cover. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: small;">The rationale for selecting the groups for this release was
that I wanted to reach out and include a wider variety of bands and styles that
represented the current punk scene. Dead Silence was overtly political;
Expatriate had metal edge; Warlock Pinchers mixed rap, metal, and punk with
Andy Warhol’s Pop Art sensibilities; Aberant misspelled <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">aberrant</i> and sounded punk as fuck. Finally, the Donut Crew franchise
bands, Again! and Keep in Mind. I loved watching those two evolve into their
own sound.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: small;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><br /></span></span>
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: small;">Matrix/Runout (Side 1): </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "helvetica"; font-size: small;">DCR-004-A BOB "BILL WILL LARRY BERRY" ROB IS STILL THE DONUT GOD! (</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "helvetica"; font-size: small;">Side 2): </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "helvetica"; font-size: small;">DCR-004-B IF YOU THINK READING RECORDS ARE FUN, TRY READING A BOOK SOMETIME --> BUDDY!</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: small;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: small;"><b>DCR 005 Again!-<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Trainwreck</i>
7” EP<o:p></o:p></b></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: small;">700 copies (First pressing: 500 black vinyl and black cover.
Second pressing: 200 copies, red cover and yellow vinyl.) <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: small;">Side 1:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: small;">1. <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Trainwreck</i><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: small;">Side 2: <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: small;">1. <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Wait the Turn</i><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">Notes: I had hoped Again! would be one of the bands to break
out, perhaps breakaway and give Donut Crew a little recognition. They had a
crossover sound that appealed to listeners beyond the punk community. The
band’s brand of songs was easily digestible with Boulder’s college rock crowd.
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the ideal match. Perhaps if <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Trainwreck</i>
had been released in another city and on a label with a farther reach, the band
might have gained a little more mileage. The group’s lack of touring and the
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">Matrix/Runout (Side 1): DCR-005 BRADIN' FULL ON!
Matrix/Runout (Side 2): DCR-005 I FUCKED UP ON THE BRIDGE: SO BUY US A VAN!
-MEGGIT IS A SISSY-<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">DCR 006 Keep In Mind-<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Downstairs</i>
7” EP<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">700 copies (First pressing: 500 copies, green cover and red
vinyl. Second pressing: 200 copies, black cover and vinyl.)<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">Side 1:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">1. <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">So Stained</i><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">2. <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">More</i><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">Side 2:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">1. <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Out Of Convenience</i><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: small;"><i>Keep In Mind insert.</i></span></td></tr>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">Notes: Musically, Keep In Mind clicked on this recording
session. The group had smoothed out all of the rough edges from their previous
attempts. The songs were solid, especially <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">So
Stained</i> which remains one of my favorite tracks. High school graduation
eventually brought an end to the group. I’ve always imagined what another year
and a batch of new songs would have sounded like. At the band’s last show,
opening for Fugazi, Keep In Mind threw out giant inflatable Gumbys to the
audience and were returned back to the band stabbed. What else would you expect
to happen at the Aztlan?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">Matrix/Runout (Side 1): DCR-006-A IS GUMBY THE INCREDIBLE
HULK WHEN HE'S HAPPY ? - DOES IT MATTER P.S. BUY YOUR OWN VAN ! ← BLAST
THING (JUS' JOKIN BROS) Matrix/Runout (Side 2): DCR-006-B → ONLY
REAL MEN [FROM BENEATH THE SWAMP] PLAY RUGBY ← → POKEY, PRICKLE, AND GOO DEATH TO FALSE
METAL / BLOCK HEADS ←<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;"><b>DCR 007/008 Colorado Krew III-<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Is This My Donut?</i><o:p></o:p></b></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">1500 copies (First pressing: 1000 Burgundy cover. Second
pressing: 500 Black covers)<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">Record 1 DCR 007<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">Side 1:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">1. Keep In Mind-<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Yours </i><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">2. Dogbite-<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Verge of
Nothing</i><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">Side 2:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">1. Again!-<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bradin Full
On</i><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">2. Jux County-<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Pick
Your Brain</i><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">Record 2 DCR 008<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">Side 1:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">1. Fluid-<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Don’t Wanna
Play</i><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">2. Hobbledehoy-<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Turn
Back the Clock</i><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">Side 2:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">1. Acid Pigs-<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">White Lie</i><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">2. Warlock Pinchers-<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Confrontation
Yeah! Yeah!</i> <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">Notes: This was the release that broke the camel’s back.
Going into it, I knew one of two things would happen: the label would continue
or close up shop. By the time the record entered its second pressing, it looked
like I might squeeze a couple more years out of Donut Crew. Then reality hit
when a couple of my distributors went belly-up still owing me large sums of
cash. Knowing the funds to keep the label afloat had vanished overnight was a
surefire sign that I needed to move on and devote my energies elsewhere.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Between booking shows, playing in bands,
putting records out, and transferring to a university, I was burned out. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">I’m glad Donut Crew ended on this release. It represented
the best cross section of Denver’s underground scene. The record brought
together members of bands from the early 80’s hardcore scene with kids who were
barely finishing high school. While the styles of music were a little uneven at
times, it was the most honest documentation of Denver’s eclectic underground
music scene coming into the 90s.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">Matrix/Runout: DCR-007-A PLEASE BUY AGAIN A VAN SO THEY SHUT
UP. WE TOOK A VOTE, MEGGIT IS NOT AN OFFICIAL SISSY Matrix/Runout: DCR-007-B
777 BUY RECORDS WITH THE NUMBER SEVEN 777 BUY KEEP IN MIND A GUMBY Matrix/Runout:
DCR-008-A BOB ATE THE EIGHT AND KEITH WANTED HIS NAME ON A RECORD COS HE HAS
THE HAREM THAT ARNIE TOOK [USED, BORROWED, ETC] Matrix/Runout: DCR-008-B SHE
TOLD ME TO KISS HER SOMEPLACE DIRTY SO I TOOK HER TO THE BACK OF THE AZTLAN. REFER
TO MISSING SIDE A OF THE MISSING EIGHT 8<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
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It should be noted that along with Rich Jacobs and Dave
Clifford and their bands getting Donut Crew on its feet, other people who
helped along the way were Keith “Meekster” Smith, who was my short-term
financial partner, and Matt Keleher who had always been a reliable friend,
helping in any and every capacity. Bern from Lost and Found Records in Germany
helped get hundreds of Donut Crew releases into Europe. There were kids in Australia
and Japan who brought Donut Crew to their part of the world. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">Donut Crew catalog summer of 1989. </span></i></td></tr>
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<i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">In Maximum Rocknroll I had placed an ad as a gimmick to
generate interest in the label. Send a stamp and get a donut seed. This
required me going out and buying a box of Cheerios and tiny zip-lock bags. It
didn’t occur to me at the time that when the “donut seeds” went through the automated
machines at the post office they would be pulverized into a pile of Cheerios
dust. </span></i></div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>Photograph with governor Roy Romer.</i></span></td></tr>
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<i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">Editing by Rory Eubank. </span></i>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Stepping up to the plate. <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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The overall realization within the punk and hardcore scene
was that it couldn’t sustain the momentum from the early 80s. The raw energy element
had grown progressively thin by the later part of mid-80s. The overall punk
aesthetic had morphed away from its center in terms of music, dress, and
attitude, and started mixing with other genres of music. By 1987, playing punk
and hardcore was regarded as passé and frowned upon. In a conversation I had
with Karl Alvarez (Descendents/ALL) concerning the stylistic changes in the
80s, he said something to the effect of how every band had changed sounds and
moved away from punk, with the exceptions of his band and DOA who had both
weathered the storm and continued playing punk non-stop for thirty plus
years.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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On Minor Threat’s posthumous <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Salad Days</i> 7” EP in 1985, vocalist Ian MacKaye scrutinized changes
within the scene through an introspective recollection on the record’s title
cut: “Wishing for the days when I first wore this suit, baby has grown older, it's
no longer cute.” Similar sentiments were echoed in other bands songs including
Dag Nasty’s “Never Go Back” on their debut <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Can
I Say</i> LP: “I'm looking at pictures and I'm thinking of those times, those
times have changed man, and so have I.” <o:p></o:p></div>
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Dag Nasty represented a stylistic evolution in the punk
scene. Driving at a more tuneful and melodic sound and shying away from the
rough and tough hardcore grit, the members of the band spun from (Minor Threat,
DYS). The resulting sound was what my friends and I started gravitating towards.
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When I called Randy “Now” prior to my month-long excursion
to the East Coast to inquire about bringing Dag Nasty and 7 Seconds to Denver,
he was keen on having me bring his bands to Denver. Randy casually asked what
happened to all the older promoters in Denver. I knew for a fact that both Jill
Razer and Headbanger had distanced themselves from the scene and were both done
with promoting punk shows. Honestly, I knew little about booking shows. I simply
played in bands and had learned a few tricks of the trade by observing Jill and
Headbanger. I naively approached the task with the attitude thinking promoting
would be an cinch. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>Cover of issue no. 2 to FlipOff. Collection of Author. </i></span></td></tr>
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I called my buddy Steve Cervantes, an old school LA Punk
transplant living in the foothills of Denver, to see if he wanted to help me
bring Dag Nasty to town. We were already collectively publishing our fanzine <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">FlipOff </i>-a nod to his homies who
published <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Flipside</i> back in Whittier.
Becoming concert promoters seemed like a logical extension of our photocopied
rag. While bands like the Germs, up until Minor Threat, was more his generation
of punk, Steve was pretty open and excited by newer bands. To bring Dag Nasty and
promote the show, we agreed I would do most of the legwork. His main interest
in our joint adventure would be to help out financially. Steve had a real job,
a wife, and was almost ten years my senior. He took me under his wing and
shared stories about his involvement in the early days of Southern California
punk. Steve gave me that push I needed to become a promoter and later, the
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In late July, Dag Nasty rolled into town. I had secured the
DAV Hall on East Colfax Avenue in Aurora plus a PA system for the event. The
veterans running the hall were a bit skeptical when the punk rockers started
trickling in. They asked for reassurance that kids wouldn’t sneak in alcohol or
doing drugs in or near the venue. My high school pal, “Billy Idol” Brett agreed
to work security. Brett’s task was to make sure no one damaged the PA or knock
holes in the bathroom walls, and to keep booze off the property. <o:p></o:p></div>
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An hour after the show started, Steve and I were on edge
because the band had a $750 dollar guarantee, but we barely pulled in $600 at
the door. We were desperate for more people. Stepping out of the venue scanning
the sidewalks on Colfax Avenue, hoping to spot a lost punk rocker looking for
the show. We still had to pay for the PA and the hall. On top of that, the band
was late, they finally showed up thirty minutes before they were scheduled to
go on. <o:p></o:p></div>
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The bassist of the group, Doug Carrion, got out of the van
with no apologies, nothing. The other guys piled out and wanted to start
unloading. Doug sniffed me out pretty well, sensing he had the upper hand. He
told his guys to stop unloading and demanded we pay them $750 before playing
their set or they were going to get back in the van and drive to the next town.
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>The first show I promoted. Mohican Youth was a made-up band "Toledo" Pat and I created but never materialized. Collection of the author. </i></span></td></tr>
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This was the time I wished that I had had the wisdom of
Headbanger or Jill. The conversation might have gone like this: “All we have is
$500. Take or leave it.” I knew their next gig would be at least a nine-hour
drive in either direction. $500 for relatively unknown band in a market like
Denver was killer money. Instead, the way the real conversation unfolded was: Doug,
Steve, and I walked over to the payphone near the club, called, and woke up
their booking agent Randy “Now” on the East Coast. After passing around the
phone for five minutes, we finally settled on a price and hung up. The three of
us walked across the street to an ATM, and Steve withdrew money. We handed Doug
$650. Back at the venue, Doug gave the rest of the band the green light to
unload. The only parts I remembered about the band’s set was when they blew out
the venue’s fuse box a couple of times. In the end, no smashed bathroom walls, no
broken bottles. The kids had a great time, everyone got paid, but we lost our
collective financial ass. I could hear Headbanger and Jill singing, “Welcome to
the club.” Steve and I vowed we wouldn’t let another band take advantage of us
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About a month later, the 7 Seconds show was set for the same
DAV Hall. The morning of the show, I arrived to drop off the remainder of the
deposit. One of the grumpy veterans told me he didn’t like the way we had moved
the American flag off the stage the last time we had a show there He complained
that the bottom corner of the flag had touched the ground. Of course, I
apologized profusely. He disappeared into the back office and emerged with my
initial deposit. “Sorry, we won’t be able to host your bands here tonight.” I
raced over to the payphone and called Steve at work to tell him what had transpired
with the venue. I drove home in a panic and flipped through the Yellow Pages,
calling every hall and lodge in the hope that one would come through.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>Some cool kid had made this 7 Seconds flyer that I had to go around and take down because the show was moved. The original flyer I made for the show belong to Rich Jacobs and is featured in All Ages: Reflections On Straight Edge, a book released by Revelation Records. Collection of the author. </i></span></td></tr>
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Dave Clifford in his fanzine <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Given Time</i> wrote: “7 Seconds actually showed, and it was a good
thing. Bob Rob was almost in tears trying to find a place for the show, and
luckily, the American Legion, run by the drunkest hick I’ve ever seen, let him
do it there.” 7 Seconds and Justice League arrived early at my parent’s house.
While my mom cooked and served the bands a late lunch, I told them what had
happened in that morning. I was upfront when I asked them not to have high
expectations in regards to people showing up and/or getting paid very much. 7
Seconds was cool and told me that anything towards gas would help; they just
wanted to play for the kids. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>Given Time, a fanzine created and published by Dave Clifford. Collection of the author. </i></span></td></tr>
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We caravanned from Aurora across Denver to the
out-of-the-way American Legion Hall at the edge of Arvada. The punk rock phone
tree and last minute flyering paid off: nearly 200 kids made it out to the
show. My partner Steve’s favorite part of the evening was the handful of
drunken old veterans piling out of the bar behind the main hall hooting,
hollering, and dancing.</div>
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<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Sigh…</i> It was time
to make the donuts again, but more like recoup money from putting on shows. Any
sensible person would have chalked up the losses and moved on. Instead, my
stubbornness propelled me dig deeper, and further entrench myself into the
realm of Denver punk. I dropped in at the donut shop and asked my manager for
my old job back. Considering the lack of applicants flooding through the door
hoping to land a graveyard shift frying donuts all night, she obliged. I signed
some paperwork and was back at work the same night.<o:p></o:p></div>
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I felt slightly pathetic returning to my former job. I
started thinking about several of my high school friends who were packing up
and moving on to college. Then I thought about my coworkers, especially the
baker who had trained me. At the ripe old age of 35, he had a reputation within
the company and was respected by everybody. He was my sensei, the donut sage...
I imagined myself with his sort of clout: a five star, go-nowhere, flipping
donuts in the fryer in the middle of the night at 35. Fuck that! I just promoted
a couple of punk shows and came off a 4,000-mile mind-blowing road trip. That
first night back was a heavy dose of what I was returning to; it was the moment
of clarity I needed. There was definitely more to life than living in the
confines of Aurora, Colorado. <o:p></o:p></div>
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A couple of days later, I surprised my dad by telling him I
wanted to enroll in fall courses at the Community College of Aurora. He was
skeptical, but agreed to pay the tuition. (He didn’t think I would last more
than a semester.) The trick would be to juggle a full load of college courses
plus a fulltime job while promoting shows. Making donuts was the sacrifice, but
it was the ticket, which allowed me to actively bring bands to Denver and
eventually put out records. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">The Changing of the Season<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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In the fall of 1987, I started making new friends in the
scene. Arnold from the Acid Pigs approached me and asked if I would be
interested in starting a new band with him and Jack of the Pigs. My former
band, Idiots Revenge, had played together with them the year before. They were
cool guys, and I dug their music, so I jumped at the opportunity to play bass
in what was to become Short Fuse.<o:p></o:p></div>
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During the same time, through the shows I was promoting, I
had became closer friends with Dave Clifford who played in Deviant Behavior in
Boulder and a skater kid named Rich Jacobs from the Denver Tech area. I
regarded the pair as the posi-straight edge crew. Although I wasn’t straight
edge at the time, I admired what they were doing. Seeing people waste away in
the drug and booze haze of the Denver scene had become counter productive to
the creative process of making music. I latched on to Dave and Rich because
they brought the fresh and raw energy the scene needed. We all looked up to
what was going on with Dischord Records in Washington DC and admired their
tight, cohesive, and self-supporting scene. We collectively imagined something
along those lines happening in Denver. <o:p></o:p></div>
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The impetus for bringing like-minded positive kids together
was the violence we were witnessing at shows and the adverse musical directions
bands appeared to be taking. At the time speed-metal and paisley-hair rock was well
underway. We wanted to move away from that and become immersed in music played
with sincerity with a message. The group of kids who were mainly responsible
for setting the stage for an emerging positive youth crew movement in the
Denver/Boulder area were the 8 Flights Up/Splat! kids attending CU Boulder.
They had tried to create a space and movement centered on positivism, living a
substance-free life style, and aspects of vegetarianism.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>Colorado Krew artwork by Rich Jacobs. Collection of the author.</i></span></td></tr>
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Bands echoing positive sentiments were gathering momentum
all over the country in pockets like suburban New York City and Southern
California. While 7 Seconds represented the old guard, even their sound evolved
while they continued speaking on topics of equality, unity, and personal
matters. Kids across America and Europe were picking up on this growing
movement bands like 7 Seconds helped foster. New bands were popping up all over
the map, and the kids were creating networks via touring, fanzines, and
word-of-mouth.</div>
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My friend and I were swept up and excited by this infectious
transformation. I was telling Rich about starting a record label to document
music from Denver, along the lines of what Duane Davis of Wax Trax did, by releasing
local bands on his Local Anesthetic label. Of course, there were other regional
labels out there just as inspiring: Dischord Records in Washington DC and Touch
and Go in the Midwest. Rich told me I should just go for it. Since the records
would be financed by my donut-making paychecks, we deemed it appropriate for
the label to be known as Donut Crew Records.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>Colorado Krew 7" EP cover. Collection of the author. </i></span></td></tr>
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Rich and I thought the first release should be a 7” EP
compilation showcasing newer, less established bands we already knew and were
friends with. I called a couple of groups I had helped with shows such as, End
of Story and Acid Pigs. Rich’s band, Atomic Dilemma, and his newer, straight
edge group, Keep In Mind each wanted to contribute a track. Although, our
recently put together Short Fuse band was relatively new, we recorded one of
our songs for the record too. The project came together and was released in
early 1988.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></div>
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By 1988, most of the people and bands that had been part of
the early ‘80s Denver punk scene had changed musical direction or dropped out.
Several scenesters had moved away to college or enter the workforce. My buddy
Shawn befriended Choke from Slap Shot and wanted to bring the group to town for
a New Year’s Eve show. We tried to collectively book them, but the show never
materialized. As a consolation prize, Shawn and his brother booked rooms at the
Westin Hotel in Downtown and invited Slap Shot to ring in the New Year with us…though
the guys in band were straight edge. After downing several beers chased by
bottles of Dom Perignon, Choke and company escorted Shawn and me to the toilet
to vomit our indulgence. After worshipping the porcelain god, Shawn came up
with the motto to start off the New Year: “Straight Edge in 88!” Giving up the
booze made sense at the time plus most of my more recent friends already
abstained from any sort of vices. It was time for me to move in that direction too
and concentrate on booking shows and putting out records. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<i>Edited by Rory Eubank </i><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">All drawings by Toledo Pat made in the summer of 1987 on his then girlfriend's stationery. </i></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Go East, Young Man <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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Somehow I inched out a high school diploma in May of 1987. I
was minus a band for the first time since 1983, and without direction or the
ambition to continue schooling. Flipping donuts was all I had to look forward to
going into the summer. For a graduation gift, I asked my dad to use his Ford
Bronco for a road trip. My parents agreed, gave me spending money, and sent me
on my way. Other than popping-out from my mom’s belly in North Dakota, I’ve
only been east one other time: Lima, Ohio in 1975 to visit my godmother. I
called my manager and told her I was quitting my job. <o:p></o:p></div>
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“Toledo” Pat was living back in Ohio, and we had remained in
contact since he left Denver. Before departing east, the plan was to drive to
Toledo, gather Pat, and hit every record shop from Toledo to Boston to
Washington D.C. and beyond. <o:p></o:p></div>
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It sounds slightly absurd nearly 30 years later; I’m certain
not many 18-year olds drive across America hunting down rare punk rock vinyl.
The first day I made it a couple of hours west of Chicago, while dodging a
tornado and being pelted with marble-sized hail in Iowa. 17 hours of straight
driving might be early symptoms of a neurotic disorder. I reached Toledo the
following day and experienced my first dose of heat and humidity. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Pat lived with his mom in government housing. His bedroom
walls were adorned with fliers and original Misfits posters. Pat was old school
and saw all the great Midwest and East Coast bands that graced the Toledo/Detroit
area during hardcore’s formative years. Additionally, Pat went to school with
members of the Necros. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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Before heading East, we trotted north to the posh college
town of Ann Arbor; later on, we sampled the near desolate streets of a decaying
Detroit. We did catch the Meatmen at the Graystone. The band’s outrageous front
man, Tesco Vee, thought it would be cute to play <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Aerosmith’s Greatest Hits</i> twice over to an increasingly irritated
crowd. The band finally hit the stage and launched into their <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Rock and Roll Juggernaut</i> material. Pat
and I ran into Denver transplants, the Piccoli brothers- Jerome and Joe
“Hardcore” at the show. I was surprised to see Joe working the door. Years later, Joe and Jerome who watched everything go down firsthand told me the reason why the Meatmen
played late: a heated dispute between the band and the show’s promoter, Scary
Cary. In retaliation for the shitty sound and not being paid their guarantee, Tesco walked off with the venue’s
microphones. In response, Scary pulled a pistol and pointed it at Tesco's head and told him to "unload you fucking truck!"Tesco wisely
surrendered the stolen property. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">East Coast, here we come… <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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Somehow Pat convinced his live-in girlfriend to quit her job
at Bloomingdales and join us on our travels. We took the toll road towards
Cleveland for our first round of record shopping. Driving through Lakewood we
looked for the neighborhood of Coventry. In the days before smart devices and a
GPS, you had to rely on a map. Since we only had a road atlas, we succumbed to rolling
down the window and asking a stranger how to get to Coventry. His directions
were along the lines of: “Go straight for 5 minutes, make a left, drive for
about 2 minutes, turn right. You’ll come to a stop sign. Turn left and drive
for 10 minutes…” It was wishful thinking on our part that we’d ever figure out
where we were supposed to go. The confidence in his voice and hand gestures sounded
plausible. We made an honest attempt of following his route by gauging our
turns by the clock on the dashboard. Encountering little success, we stopped
another person on the street. “Oh sure, Coventry. That’s easy. You need to
drive for 5 minutes, make a right and drive for 3 minutes…” Needless to say
ended up Erie, Pennsylvania. <o:p></o:p></div>
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The name of the town said it all. Tensions were high with three
hungry, road weary travelers. We spotted a pizzeria and while Pat and I were
okay with getting by on pizza, his lady split from the group and walked to the
diner down the road. In hindsight, she made the wiser choice. We ordered the
two topping special. The waitress asked if we wanted sauce on the pizza. <o:p></o:p></div>
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“Of course.” <o:p></o:p></div>
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“Okay boys, that’s one topping. Do you want cheese?” <o:p></o:p></div>
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We knew where this was going. When the small, oddly shaped,
two topping pizza of sauce and cheese arrived, it was a sight to behold. For a
moment we thought we were on Candid Camera; for sure Alan Funt was going to
emerge from the back and declare, “Smile! You’re on…” But it never happened.
Pat and I stared a good 5 minutes at what looked like a smashed loaf of Wonder
bread topped with tomato sauce and grated parmesan cheese from a can. With
hesitation, we ate our $4 pizza. Thinking revenge was certainly called for, we paid
for our meal by dumping out pennies at the register from jar of coins Pat had brought
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We walked towards the diner to gather Kristen. She was
finishing up her slice of pie. In many ways, we felt fucked the whole day and
seeing her eat blueberry pie just rubbed me the wrong way.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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Regrettably, our day was far from over. We continued onward
towards Boston through New York. While Pat and I resigned ourselves to the fact
the Bronco could double as our sleeping quarters, Kristen had other ideas.
Every motel sign on the highway into New York read NO VACANCY. We drove into
Syracuse to try our luck in the city. We pulled into a vacant lot across from
what looked to be a turn of the century building. With a little imagination,
you could sense its past glitz and glitter. Perhaps another era long ago it was
the primo spot to stay. Pat and I got out of the car and walked across the
street towards the entrance. In matter of seconds, we were racing back. Kristen
asked, “That’s quick. Did you get a room?” While I was peeling out of the lot,
Pat laughed. “There was a black man pacing out front waving a pistol yelling
for Leroy to get his ass down there.” Forty-five minutes later, we pulled into
a rest area on I-90. I bedded down on a picnic table while Kristen and Pat
stayed in the Bronco.</div>
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Apparently, during the night my body had served as a feed
trough for hungry insects; they left the evidence of bites all over my arms and
legs. The early sunrise and humidity on top of a picnic table made sleeping a
nearly impossible task. By seven, we were on the road towards Northhampton,
Massachusetts. Pat said Main St. Records is one of the best stores on the East
Coast. Maybe it was, but he was talking to a <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>zombie. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Kristen turned me on to double espressos, and that was
enough to fuel us to Boston. Still sleep deprived, we hit as many record shops
as we could from Kenmore Square onwards. Our lifeline was slices of cheap pizza
and coffee. We ran into Bill and Milo from the Descendents walking around. In
typical Bill fashion, he pointed at my shirt and asked if I liked that
band-Uniform Choice. They were playing TT Bears, and we had planned on going.
We met them back at the club outside their van. Kristen, Pat and I were cooked.
We told Bill and Milo we’d meet up in Toledo. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Maybe we’d have better luck outside of Boston. We drove around
looking for a cheap room to bed down but ended up finding a parking lot in the
suburb. I slept under the car.</div>
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I was more fucked up the next morning, suffering from a
caffeine hangover. It was the first time I felt like my mind was slipping away.
The desperation to find a room was at a critical stage. We merged on to the
freeway, only to be served a heavy dose of rush hour, Boston style. It was a
shit show, like blindly bumbling into a hornet’s nest. Shoulders became ad hoc
driving lanes by motorists hell bent on riding our ass perhaps hoping to plow
us in a cement median. We were weeded out at the first motel we spotted. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Forty fucking dollars was the price to regain a glimpse of sanity.
We emptied our wallets on the motel’s registration desk. The clerk sensed our
desperation from our red eyes and was kind enough not to milk us for the third
person. She must have thought we were some sex fiend, punk rock tweakers. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Fuck Boston. Pat thought we should head south to Providence,
claiming we could score some great vinyl at a store he knew about across from
Brown University. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Up on the wall behind the counter was the first Germs
record, Forming EP. There was an outrageous price tag on it; something in the
neighborhood of $50. The guy running the register was a huge Buzzcocks and UK
Subs fan. I scored a fan club Buzzcocks single in Boston along with a rare live
UK Subs cassette. I offered him the single, tape, and $10 for the Germs record.
He took it. <o:p></o:p></div>
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At the start of the summer, I had flipped through the pages
of <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Maximum Rock’n’Roll </i>and came
across an ad for the booking agent of Dag Nasty, 7 Seconds, and other bands.
The guy was Randy “Now” Ellis. I called the number in the ad to tell him I was
interested in bringing bands to Denver. He told me that if I was ever near
Trenton, New Jersey, I should look him up. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Pat, Kristen and I had a choice to make: we would either go
to New York City or further on to Philly.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>I told them I had a friend, Todd, in Philly, and we could crash at his
place, or we could take our chances in New York and risk sleeping under the car
again. I also mentioned Randy from Trenton. We found a payphone in Providence
and called Randy. He asked us to come down for the Exploited and Dr. Know show;
he’d put us on the guest list. It certainly sounded more appealing than the
uncertainty of aimlessly wondering around the streets of New York. <o:p></o:p></div>
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We made it to his club, City Gardens, in Trenton just in
time for the bands to start. Unfortunately the Exploited didn’t hold our attention,
so we left and drove in the rain to Philly. We found a payphone and called Todd
repeatedly. No answer. Tood lived off of South Street, so we scoured the blocks
in the vicinity looking for a place to crash. We found a room in what we later
discovered was a sex motel full of junkies, whores, and chickenhawks. Kristen
screamed when she found a used condom under the bed. We even moved the dresser
in front of the door. It was fortunate none of us ended up with scabies or a
knife in our back…<o:p></o:p></div>
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<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">I had met Todd a year
earlier when our bands played together at Norman’s in Aurora. We hit it off and
hung out quite a bit. He eventually left Boulder and moved to Philly. <o:p></o:p></i></div>
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We reached Todd the following morning. He knew we were
coming in late the night before, so he disconnected his phone so we couldn’t
wake him. What an asshole! He made up for it by letting us crash at his place
for a couple of nights. We needed to get our head back together, eat regular
meals, shower, laundry…Todd taught us a trick: cut aluminum cans into the shape
of the coin slot of the washer. Free laundry! While we were washing our
clothes, Todd pulled out a record according to him, was the worst band ever,
Youth of Today. He mentioned they were some generic straight edge, hardcore
group. He regarded the record so awful he didn’t even play it for us and made
me vow to carry it back to Denver. Todd did confess he had new band, New Glory.
He described it as American Oi! and said Rock-O-Rama in Germany was going to
release their record. <o:p></o:p></div>
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While doing the record store circuit, Pat recalled a guy
approaching us asking for spare change. His stomach appeared cut open with his
guts falling out. Our initial shock was immediately interrupted by two approaching
police officers. The guy ran off. The cops said it was his shtick to pry change
from newbies.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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The final stop on our tour would be Washington D.C. I guess
we were too cool for school to swing by the White House and the other monuments
that adorn in the nation’s capital…a missed opportunity rectified years later. Instead,
we hit the trendy new wave Commander Salamander in Georgetown and Y&T
Records in Rockville, Maryland It proved to be a fruitful outing until we ended
up camping out behind a donut shop. I slept underneath the Bronco again until
the cockroaches started crawling up the legs of my pants. The hot, humid night
with muscle cars spinning out in the adjacent parking lot didn’t enhance the
moment, either. We jokingly mentioned driving over to the Dischord House like
Youth Brigade and Social Distortion did in the film Another State of Mind.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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It was an early start in the morning to head back to Toledo.
We made a pit stop in Pittsburg to sniff out record stores. We pulled up to a
guy standing on the corner with the intentions of asking for directions. The
minute he said, “I don’t know the area well. I’m from Cleveland,” Pat
immediately rolled up his window and I laid on the gas pedal. No more cryptic
“Drive for 5 minutes and take a left” bullshit kind of directions. Yeah, we
were guilty of discriminating against the Cleveland dude. <o:p></o:p></div>
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We couldn’t have been happier driving into the parking lot
of Pat’s complex. There was nothing better than a shower and falling into a
real bed. We had to get our beauty rest for the 4<sup>th</sup> of July
celebration down at the Riverfront. A nearly washed-up Billy Squire would be
the featured attraction. <o:p></o:p></div>
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We heard “The Stroke” with chants of "Stroke Me" from afar, and figured we should keep
walking to dodge the hordes of Toledoans wearing their red, white, and blue. The
good news was the Descendents and the Doughboys were rolling into town the
following night to play the Cypress Lounge. While driving to the show Pat
warned me he didn’t have a favorable rapport with some of the younger punks because
of his tongue and cheek humor towards the newbies. One kid at the show was complaining the
scene in Toledo sucked, so Pat talked him into checking out Council Bluff, Iowa,
saying it was the hottest scene in the country. Bullshitting kids and cutting
up zines published by others for the sake of parody were the sort
of antics that earned him a reputation in his hometown.</div>
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I had been out for almost a month and was about out of cash.
It was time for me to head home. Pat wanted to bring Kristen along and take
another stab at spending part of the summer in Denver. We piled into the Bronco
and headed West with a pit stop in Chicago to check out the rather thin bins of
Wax Trax Records.</div>
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Just before slipping into Colorado, Kristen asked if there
were stoplights in Denver. I jokingly told her Denver just got our first paved
road and in the following month we were due to get electricity. Tears were rolling down her cheeks when we spotted the peaks of
the Rocky Mountains. Felling sorry for Kristen, Pat and I came clean. We reassured her Denver was indeed a modern city and had amenities like electricity and running water…<br />
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #666666; font-family: "trebuchet ms" , "trebuchet" , "verdana" , sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 21px;"><b><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #3d85c6;">If you haven't got yourself a copy of Denvoid and the Cowtown Punks, what are you waiting for? You can visit my secure website. <a href="https://bobrobart.bigcartel.com/" style="color: #2288bb; text-decoration: none;">https://bobrobart.bigcartel.com</a></span></i></b></span></div>
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Bob Rob Medinahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05818604452391830233noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1007449741570868085.post-45984458332753906762015-10-28T10:43:00.002-07:002015-10-28T10:43:41.628-07:00Funky Cold Medina makes the donuts<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #3d85c6;">No promises: While sitting in the Denver airport awaiting my journey back to Egypt following the book release event, Sonny sent me a messaging saying his plane was delayed. A couple of gates separated us. We met up and the conversation turned into the possibilities of working on a follow-up to Denvoid. What about a part 2 covering 87-96? I pulled out my laptop and started jotting down notes. </span></i></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #3d85c6;">Last week I went through a spurt of writing...maybe 10 pages over a couple of days. I'm thinking a similar format to Denvoind, a narrative at the beginning leading into interviews. I haven't picked up a brush yet. I miss the discipline of posting every Wednesday. Again, no promises.</span></i></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #3d85c6;">If you haven't got yourself a copy of Denvoid and the Cowtown Punks, what are you waiting for? You can visit my secure website. <a href="https://bobrobart.bigcartel.com/">https://bobrobart.bigcartel.com</a></span></i></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Time to make the donuts Funky Cold Medina. <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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Long before people started calling me “Funky Cold Medina” in
the late 80s, friends would constantly tell me it was “Time to make the donuts” repeating the infamous Dunkin' Donuts commercial. Far too many times I would up and leave in a middle of a band’s set and head to my night job as a
baker at Winchell's. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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To clear up the “Funky Cold Medina” remark, I did encounter
Tone Loc outside of a bank in Oakland in the later part of the '90s. A friend
pointed him out and I walked up to him and said, “Thanks, thanks a lot!” and
walked away never turning back to see his reaction. It probably wasn’t the first
time someone bearing the last name Medina walked up to him and razzed him for
writing the song. I’m certain every Medina across America suddenly awoke one
morning to a new funk-a-fied moniker. Perhaps it was a term of endearment, a way people showed they were hip with the latest rap hit. I’m sure all the Mrs.
Robinsons were suddenly branded cougars after Simon and Garfunkel’s hit. I felt
their pain. Though it has been over 26 years since the song came out, I still
get the occasional Funky Cold shout-out and more recently <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFqov8a9iL4" target="_blank">Mista Dobalina, Mista Bob Dobalina</a>. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">While researching my boxes for Denvoid, I came across a roll of negatives I never printed. I decided to scan the roll and see what came up. To be honest, I don't recall the day these were taken and I'm fuzzy with the names of the people in the photos. It was a long time ago. </span></i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"> </span></td></tr>
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Now that the name nonsense is cleared-up, we'll to move on to the how I got
involved in the Donut business. I finally secured a driver’s license right
before my 17<sup>th</sup> birthday. With driving a car comes responsibility and
expenses. I needed a job and saw a sign posted in the window of Winchells Donut
House across the street from Buckinghan Square mall. I walked in, filled out an
application, chatted with the manager and was hired on the spot. It was my lucky
day. Since I had the last period of school off, I was given the 2 pm to 10 pm shift 3-nights
a week. The duties were light: clean the shop, get everything ready for the
baker, and hock donuts that have been sitting in the case since the morning. I
probably worked about two solid hours and did goofed off for the other six. At
$3.35/hour it was easy money. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>A friend coming in to curb my boredom.</i></span></td></tr>
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Donuts would be my profession for the remainder of high school into
community college. The summer between Junior and Senior year was when I
transitioned into a baker to the whopping sum of $4.50 an hour. Of course it meant
surrendering weekend nights plus the hours were gnarly; 10 pm-6 am and that is
if my replacement showed up on time. The hours cut into my punk rock as far
as weekend shows went. I would show up to gigs in my uniform then cut out early
to go fry those precious nuggets of dough and deal with drunk and indecisive
customers after the bars closed. <o:p></o:p></div>
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By the time I graduated high school I was putting in 32-40
hours a week, not ideal for someone who was a borderline dropout. I befriended
a lesbian coworker couple that dropped hits of LSD at the beginning of their
shifts. Both were high school dropouts and a few years older. They were
heavily entrenched in 70’s rock music and tried to convince me punk was junk.
As gesture to convert me, the pair bought me a ticket to go see a real concert.
That show ended up being Stevie Nicks at Red Rocks. The catch was I had to drive the
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When I arrived to pick them up, they looked like they walked out of a Fleetwood Mac video. Maybe they were under the impression they would
be in a crowd shot. Already one step ahead of them, I had taken a marker and attacked an old white undershirt
redrawing the Rotters-Sit On My Face Stevie Nix EP cover. I wore it to the
concert, my coworkers giggled and surprisingly several cokehead bikers in the
audience praised my Rotters rendition. “Man, I wish Stevie Nicks would sit on
my face” was repeatedly thrown in my direction walking up and down the aisles at Red
Rocks. There were moments I had to explain the shirt to a suspicious fan, but
was usually given thumbs up afterwards. </div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">My homemade Stevie Nicks concert shirt looked like this.</span></i></td></tr>
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Bob Rob Medinahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05818604452391830233noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1007449741570868085.post-50673042027025389442015-10-25T13:43:00.000-07:002015-10-25T13:45:27.913-07:00Denvoid's Release party <div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
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October 6-11 was one heck of a ride. Just for the record,
October 6<sup>th</sup> is Armed Forces day in Egypt. It was also this day I
started my journey back to Denver for the release of Denvoid and the Cowtown
Punks via a train ride from Alexandria to Cairo. <o:p></o:p></div>
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I asked the hotel for a 4:30 am wake-up call. Thirty minutes
later I was pulling a suitcase through the neighborhood of the Zamalek desperately
hunting down a taxi. Ten minutes into my search I caught a cabbie napping in
the front seat parked on lone and desolate street. With a couple of respectful
but firm taps on his window he was jolted up from his reclined driver’s seat. <o:p></o:p></div>
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“Fil Airport” (To the airport?)<o:p></o:p></div>
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“Ay-wa” (Yes)<o:p></o:p></div>
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“Bit Qam?” (How much?)<o:p></o:p></div>
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“120” <o:p></o:p></div>
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La’ 100 (No, 100)<o:p></o:p></div>
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Ty-ebb. (Okay) <o:p></o:p></div>
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By 6 am I was filling out an exit card and going through
customs and security. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>When you fly in from Cairo</i></span></td></tr>
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A five-hour flight to London or anywhere is a cakewalk these
days. I used the time to catch-up on movies. Though I have never been a Beach
Boys fan, <i>Love & Mercy</i> was powerful and made me appreciate Brian Wilson’s
vision where he wanted to take the Beach Boys music. I have since researched Pet
Sounds and listened to the album with a different set of ears. The depth of the
layers of sounds is astonishing.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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On the other hand <i>Amy</i>, the story of Amy Winehouse was one I
had been looking forward to. I was vaguely aware of her background and music,
but had been curious about her since her death. The film featured quite a bit
of archival and home movie footage to help paint a picture of her profoundly
sad rise and demise. The movie should be shown to all aspiring fame seekers.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>Your truly. Photo by David Ensminger </i></span></td></tr>
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Terminal 5 of Heathrow is one giant maze that leads to a
shopping mall. Even the Cairo airport is more efficient. After a three-hour
layover devoted to answering questions sent by Tom Murphy from Westword, it was
a straight shot from London to Denver. The flight was mostly devoted to sleep
and reading, A Wailing of A Town: An Early History of San Pedro Punk 1977-1985
by Craig Ibarra. The pages are packed full of info about bands such as The Minutemen
and Descendents, infamous shows, venues, and a whole lot more. So far an
excellent read.<o:p></o:p></div>
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18-hours later since leaving Cairo I’m at the counter of a
car rental place. The counter person and his partner are laughing at my 13
year-old Nokia brick phone. He asked if it still worked. With a straight face I
told him, “In every country except the United States, the best part is it can’t
be traced by homeland security or the KGB.” He finished the paperwork in
silence while I held in my laughter. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>With Joe aka Spike</i></span></td></tr>
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I rented a house in Capitol Hill near Cheeseman Park for
David (editor), Sonny (designer) and I. I needed a larger space to prepare the
artwork and package/ship orders. I also wanted a common space for us to spend
some quality time together and figure out how the release party was going to
unfold. <o:p></o:p></div>
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In the meantime, I did have a chance to jam with my buddy
Martin Day at his apartment. He is a killer drummer that I always wanted play
songs with. Had wine and cheese with my old college friend, Marta. Invited a
handful of folks over to a casual evening of conversation. Otherwise most days
(10 plus hours/day) were spent preparing artwork, hustling books, and other
menial tasks. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>Bryan Wendzel is your tropical home invader. </i></span></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>David and Dan swapping war stories.</i></span></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>Sonny and Staci on the porch.</i></span></td></tr>
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The day finally arrived for the event. Fast forward to the
evening. Sonny and I hung about 100 drawings from the book. Jif Jiper showed up
with the PA. People trickled in and swelled to over 150 throughout the evening.
Jif played an acoustic set, The Frantix were up next and belted out a handful
of classics. The Buckinghan Squares finished the night. It was the perfect
trio. The two kegs emptied within 30 minutes of putting in the taps. Several
family members and friends showed up, many whom I haven’t seen in dozens of
years. In the end, it was everything I had hoped for. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>Signing Jen's book. (note: her and her friend Cat are on back cover)<br />Photo by Joe Morgan.</i></span></td></tr>
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Much love and appreciation to all who made it out and
participated and supported the project. It felt surreal to actually hold the
book in my hand and marvel at it. That moment didn’t come until I was on my way
back to Egypt the following day. It is finally starting to sink in that I finally
completed what I set out to do nearly 20 years ago. Thank you. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>Making the art show happen</i></span></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>Colin and his adorable family showed up sporting the Chris Shary shirt collection. </i></span></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>Jill and Jim.</i></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i> </i></span></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>Frantix with Paul Dog</i></span></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>With Harry and Shawn</i></span></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>Buckingham Squares</i></span></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>Jif with the Squares</i></span></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>with Little Fyodor.</i></span></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>With Paul Dickerson and Headbanger. </i></span></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>My ride home! Thanx Ben!</i></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i> </i></span></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>With Paul Dog and Davey</i></span></td></tr>
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You know, you can still order a copy or two (they make
lovely gifts) and they will be sent out by my right hand man, Matt K. You can
order directly here: <a href="http://bobrobart.bigcartel.com/product/denvoid-and-the-cowtown-punks-option-1">http://bobrobart.bigcartel.com/product/denvoid-and-the-cowtown-punks-option-1</a>
and receive free goodies or order through Amazon, Alternative Tentacles,
Microcosm, and RevHQ. If you’re in the Denver/Boulder area check out Wax Trax, Mutiny
Information Café, Kilgore Books, Twist and Shout, Black and Red, Albums on the
Hill, Tattered Cover, Capitol Hill Bookstore, Red Letter Books, Trident Book
Sellers, and more locations to be added soon. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Westword’s coverage of the show: <o:p></o:p></div>
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<a href="http://www.westword.com/music/scenes-from-a-denver-punk-reunion-at-mutiny-information-cafe-7237607">http://www.westword.com/music/scenes-from-a-denver-punk-reunion-at-mutiny-information-cafe-7237607</a><o:p></o:p></div>
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My interview in Westword:<o:p></o:p></div>
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Bob Rob Medinahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05818604452391830233noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1007449741570868085.post-77725442106764663922015-09-09T06:16:00.003-07:002015-09-09T06:18:38.339-07:00Leaked pages of Denvoid and the Cowtown Punks. <div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
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Bob Rob Medinahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05818604452391830233noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1007449741570868085.post-74267214544896169662015-08-12T00:27:00.000-07:002015-09-09T06:20:12.422-07:00Marilyn Megenity of the Mercury Cafe<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #666666; font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', Trebuchet, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 21px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #666666; line-height: 21px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #3d85c6;">Friends,<br /><br />Sonny is spending all his free time tweaking the pages and making it look fab. I'm impressed with his progress. </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #666666; line-height: 21px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #3d85c6;">Do yourself a favor and preorder the book and get extra goodies in the mail. Last day for me to send out the freebies in THURSDAY before I head off to Egypt. All orders will be promptly sent when I return in October for the book release. You can do this by visiting: </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 21px;"><i><span style="color: #cc0000;"><a href="http://bobrobart.bigcartel.com/" style="color: #2288bb; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span">http://bobrobart.bigcartel.com</span> </a></span></i></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #666666; line-height: 21px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #3d85c6;"><br /><br />The book release date has been set.<br /><i>Date: </i><b>Saturday, October 10 2015</b><br /><i>Location: </i><b>Mutiny Information Cafe 2 South Broadway Denver, CO 80209</b><br /><i>Time:</i> 6 pm<br />Special musical guests TBA</span></span></span><br /><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #666666; line-height: 21px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #3d85c6;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #666666; line-height: 21px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #3d85c6;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;">excerpt of Marilyn's interview. </span></span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 12.0pt;">For Marilyn </span></span><span style="color: #424242; font-family: Times;"><span style="color: #424242; font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Megenity,
the proprietor of the Mercury Cafe,</span></span><span style="font-family: Times;"><span style="font-family: Times;"> cultivating </span></span><span style="color: #424242; font-family: Times;"><span style="color: #424242; font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Denver’s hub for live underground music in the early 1980s</span></span><span style="font-family: Times;"><span style="font-family: Times;"> was an uphill struggle</span></span><span style="color: #424242; font-family: Times;"><span style="color: #424242; font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">. She battled landlords and walked a fine line with city
regulators to create a space for an organic restaurant as well as local and
touring bands to play original music. As a lover of music with a reputation for
taking care of bands, her honest and grassroots approach has been the foundation
of her success. Although her venue underwent a couple of incarnations until
1990, she finally secured a permanent location that remains in operation today.
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<span style="color: #424242; font-family: Times; font-size: small;"><span style="color: #424242; font-family: Times; font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Marilyn circumvented city regulations and accommodated audiences
of all ages under the guise that first and foremost the venue was a restaurant.
Additionally, she hosted matinee shows, including Black Flag and Dead Kennedys,
to make sure budding hardcore youth were able to see their favorite bands.<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: #424242; font-family: Times; font-size: small;"><span style="color: #424242; font-family: Times; font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Since Wax Trax existed around the corner from the original
Mercury on Pearl Street, the two entities formed an alliance and consolidated
punk rock in Denver’s Capitol Hill neighborhood. From 1979-84, monthly calendar
dates of the club were jammed packed with events, live and otherwise, to suit
those who broke from the mundane nightlife Denver had to offer. Certainly on
any given night of the week, patrons were going to experience invigorating and
cutting edge culture. <o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: #424242; font-family: Times; font-size: small;"><span style="color: #424242; font-family: Times; font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">At her new location, she continued with the same ethos: serving
local organic fare and providing live music of all genres. I formed a working
relationship with Marilyn when I booked touring and local bands at her club
from 1990-92. She not only provided a space, PA, doorman, but also counseled me
on how to be a fair and honest promoter, for which I will always be thankful. <o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: #424242; font-family: Times; font-size: small;"><span style="color: #424242; font-family: Times; font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Forty years later, she is still running her operation on her own
terms, and she offers no signs of slowing down. </span></span><span style="font-family: Times;"><span style="font-family: Times;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 12.0pt;">Landlords kicked me out of Denver a lot. The first time we were
at the space on 1308 Pearl. I had hilarious gangster landlords and just before
they kicked me out I had been booking local bands, this was 1979. One of
doorman suggested doing national acts. Shortly after that, the landlord kicked
me out. (Laughter).<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 12.0pt;">The landlords were dealing drugs and making shady business
deals. They kept raising the rent on me every week. One time I asked them if
they wouldn’t, so I could fix a leak in the roof. The leak was near the
electrical equipment, so they kicked me out. <o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 12.0pt;">The building sold, and there was a new landlord, so I moved
back in 1981. Wax Trax was across the street by then. I knew I wanted to book
touring bands, so I put that out there. There were a bunch of local new wave
bands I started booking. Barry Fey was really the only other promoter in town
at the time for rock and roll, and he wasn't hip to punk. A lot of bands
started calling me themselves. If I didn't know who they were, I would call Wax
Trax and say, "Hey, do you think I should book this band?" and they'd
say, "Yeah, book them!" The bands would sometimes do an in-store
thing at the record shop. That’s how we got started.<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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Bob Rob Medinahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05818604452391830233noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1007449741570868085.post-58116050577145879952015-08-05T18:43:00.000-07:002015-08-05T18:43:22.271-07:00Shawn Slater Denver Skins<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #666666; line-height: 21px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #3d85c6;">Friends,<br /><br />I'm currently in Las Vegas working with Sonny on the layout. Good news is text and images have been placed, Next the fine tuning. Sonny is making the magic happen. </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #666666; line-height: 21px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #3d85c6;">Do yourself a favor and preorder the book and get extra goodies in the mail next week. You can do this by visiting: </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 21px;"><i><span style="color: #cc0000;"><a href="http://bobrobart.bigcartel.com/" style="color: #2288bb; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span">http://bobrobart.bigcartel.com</span> </a></span></i></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #666666; line-height: 21px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #3d85c6;"><br /><br />The book release date has been set.<br /><i>Date: </i><b>Saturday, October 10 2015</b><br /><i>Location: </i><b>Mutiny Information Cafe 2 South Broadway Denver, CO 80209</b><br /><i>Time:</i> 6 pm<br />Special musical guests TBA</span></span></span><br />
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #666666; line-height: 21px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #3d85c6;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;">excerpt of Shawn's interview. </span></span></span><br />
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<b><span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: small;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">What do you think what eventually happened in the
Denver scene? At one point, a lot of new kids arrived calling themselves
skinhead and had a different take on what you guys started out as?<o:p></o:p></span></span></b></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: small;">I don't know where all that came from. It was gradual. It
didn’t happen overnight. That second Black Flag show at the Rainbow Music Hall.
That was when Gary had all those business cards made -- <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-style: italic; mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Support Your
Local Skins, the Few the Proud the Nazis</span></i>. That's when we gave one to
Henry, and he jumped off the stage to come after me. That's when Jeff came up
and told Henry, "You might get one shot in, but we're going to kick your
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: small;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Did he back down?<o:p></o:p></span></span></b></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: small;">He got back up on stage, said something about it, and that
was it. When we were younger, everybody was pissed off at the world. What path
were we all going? When we look back to those days we essentially woke up,
partied, listened to music, skateboarded, rode bikes, and we didn't care about
what was going to happen the next day. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: small;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">At the time, did you feel that kids involved with
hardcore had a lot of energy and did extreme stuff like ride BMX bikes, skated
ramps and gravitated towards music like punk. <o:p></o:p></span></span></b></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: small;">You gotta look at people that did that sort of thing in
Denver. They were outcasts. I moved from Southern California in 1977, and my
first day of school in 6th grade I was wearing Vans and someone tells me,
"My grandpa wears shoes like that." Right from the get-go at that
age, you had your jocks, your freaks, your hicks … I really didn't have that in
California, it was like, "Hey, buddy, let's go to the beach." You
grabbed your boogie board and went to the beach. At school, they were telling
me, "No, no, no, you gotta wear Adidas.” As I got into 9th grade, you had
to be a jock, you had to do this ..." Fuck that shit. I remember one of my
teachers telling me I was the good jock gone bad. I played football, I played lacrosse, and I followed that fucking norm. One day I got invited to punk rock
and realized that this is what I liked. We looked at all the magazines. All the
punks skateboarded and BMXed, and that's what we gravitated towards. Look at
how many people showed up to the ramps after school. Everyone went over to each
other's house and hung out. It was all tight-knit. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: small;">Eventually everyone in the scene started grouping
themselves. We're the peace punks, we're the skins, we're the hardcore punks,
we're the junkie punks ... It was weird that everyone started getting labeled
into little groups. During the whole time, I was in the scene, I don't think I
ever fought anyone in the scene ... with the exception of one skinhead who was
talking shit and got his mouth pounded. If you really reflect back to that
time, what troubles really existed within the scene? I remember the last show
at Kennedy's, but that was just one big drunken onslaught and everybody tore
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Bob Rob Medinahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05818604452391830233noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1007449741570868085.post-21383905436776741172015-08-02T18:33:00.001-07:002015-08-02T18:34:58.870-07:00Boulder's White Trash: Mexican food and Nazis in the neighborhood.<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
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<span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-size: 12pt;">The fury of the dual guitar attack of White Trash was born in the fraternity-infested university town of Boulder. The band arose out of the ashes of Annex Red, and later incarnations helped pave the formation of the Fluid.<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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Bob Rob Medinahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05818604452391830233noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1007449741570868085.post-90883308836880560832015-07-22T11:52:00.000-07:002015-07-22T11:53:18.419-07:00Book Update and Sheri Van Decar of Human Head Transplant <div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
Friends,<br />
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First apologies for not posting last week. I have been knee deep with the editing process. The editor has done an excellent job in focusing on continuity and cleaning up the grammar. This week we will be fusing the chapters together and doing the final edit before sending it off to layout.<br />
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The book release date has been set.<br />
<i>Date: </i><b>Saturday, October 10 2015</b><br />
<i>Location: </i><b>Mutiny Information Cafe 2 S Broadway Denver, CO 80209</b><br />
<i>Time:</i> 6 pm<br />
Special musical guests TBA<br />
<br />
The artwork from the book will be exhibited and avail for purchase. <br />
If you wish to preorder the book, you will receive extra goodies. You can do this by visiting<br />
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #666666; font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', Trebuchet, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 21px;"><i><span style="color: #0b5394; font-family: Times;"><a href="http://bobrobart.bigcartel.com/" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #2288bb;">http://bobrobart.bigcartel.com</span> </a></span></i></span><br />
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From here on out, I will be posting excerpts of interviews.<br />
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<b>Sheri Van Decar of Human Head Transplant </b><br />
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<span style="font-family: Times; font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 12.0pt;">About the time the music scene started to splinter, evolve,
and exponentially experiment, Human Head Transplant (HHT) arrived to fuel the
continued potentials of avant-garde in Denver. Although they were lumped as an
industrial group, their early sound escaped any firm genre boundaries. <o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 12.0pt;">Their ambitious aesthetics appealed to the fans desiring a
soundtrack that did not adhere to cookie cutter 4/4 tempos, structured riffage
and solos, and perfectly timed endings. Vocalist, guitarist, and trumpet player
Sheri Van Decar has categorized their melee as, “ … a melange of sound and a
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<span style="font-family: Times; font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 12.0pt;">Their compositions combined live instrumentation layered with
electronic textures ranging from keyboards and drum machines to samplers and
analog equipment mashed together long before computers simplified such tasks.
The group both seduced listeners with soothing synchronizations and chaotic
layers, which evoked disconnect and alienation. <o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 12.0pt;">The band often performed in appropriate settings, such as
art galleries, junkyards, and converted warehouse spaces in desolate areas of
downtown Denver. Their most infamous appearances found them opening for Einstürzende
Neubauten in 1986. Meanwhile, Beach Blanket Bingo, their alter ego, satisfied
their cravings to play pop. <o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 12.0pt;">While my friends eagerly dropped hits of LSD in preparation
for their shows, I tripped, minus the narcotic haze, because the shows alone
were such a heavy encounter with arrayed visuals and dizzying soundscapes.</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 12.0pt;">It was early 1984, and I was starting to listen to so-called
industrial music, and my friend Jonathan Garcia told me, "Sheri, I met
these guys from, Michigan, and they're really into that type of music, you
should meet them." It was Bert and Paul Dickerson. Paul was staying at
Christian’s, and we were invited along to do something. We went over there and
started making an awful lot of noise. Kelly was also from Port Huron, but was
living in Winter Park and eventually came down to Denver. He was quite
interested in what we were doing. At first, it was just Bert, Kelly and I and
it went from there. We all had some musical background, but the boys more than
I did. <o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 12.0pt;">As HHT, our first gig was at the Art Department on Santa Fe.
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 12.0pt; font-weight: bold; mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">When the band started out, did you have a concept
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<span style="font-family: Times; font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 12.0pt;">We did. We wanted to experiment with different sounds and
noises, and we experimented with different instruments. I had a trumpet that I
don't remember how I got, plus an electric guitar with a little amp, and I
managed to get pedals. I would play around with those things and doing
vocalizations in one form or another.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>People actually thought that I could play the trumpet, but was just
being ‘avant-garde’… hilarious, really.<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<i>T</i><i>he remainder of the interview will be published in the book. </i></div>
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<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="color: #0b5394; font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">Project update: Postcards are done, 9" x 12" prints are done, flies have been sent to the editor, rewrites being made...it has been busy over here at Punker Bob. You can still support the project by pre-ordering the book and get extra goodies by visiting: <a href="http://bobrobart.bigcartel.com/">http://bobrobart.bigcartel.com</a> </span></i><br />
<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;"><br /></span></i>
<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">Mark Metz is one of the
people form the Denver punk scene that wanted to take his music endeavors to
the next level. He stared out fronting the band Children of Denial, a great group I only caught a couple of times. They had a straightforward melodic punk sound
and made them a local favorite for a short moment in the early months of 1985.
One of their more famous shows </span></i><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">when opening for Broken Bones/Battalion of Saints at the Art Department </span></i><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">came to an abrupt ending when the Denver Fire
Department arrived on the scene . Indicative of promoters taking creative liberties in spelling band names every which way, they have been listed as: Children of
Denile, Children of the Nile, and my favorite, Chillin of de Nile. Mark
initially went under the moniker Scurvy and once proclaimed the group was a
“teenage rage disco band” during an interview in Der Moderate Times.</span></i></div>
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<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">Mark’s brand of humor and
attitude of “anything goes” found himself befriending some of more underground
and notorious characters in the scene like Paul Dickerson who schooled and
mentored him in industrial music along with situationist shenanigans that kept
Denver’s creative outpourings fresh.<o:p></o:p></span></i></div>
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<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">After much experimenting,
Mark eventually realized his shortcoming with substance abuse and alcoholism
and refocused his creative energies on building destructive machinery by teaming
up with Survival Research Laboratories in San Francisco.<o:p></o:p></span></i></div>
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<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">It should have been
curtains long ago for Mark, but his will to continue and overcome is a
remarkable story he shares below. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></i></div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>Children of Denial. Original photo from Der Moderate Times.<br />Brush and ink drawing by Bob Rob (Medina).</i></span></td></tr>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">Where in
Colorado are you originally from? </span></i></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">I
was born in southern California, but only lived there until I was about six.
Basically, I went from LA in the 1960’s where there were 20 TV channels,
freeways, and everything else to a ranch near Grand Junction in western
Colorado—that’s where I went to high school. I moved to Boulder in ’81 to go to
college. It was really just an excuse to get out of Grand Junction, I had no
interests in education and I was definitely more interested in partying. I
spent a couple of years in Boulder, one-year flunking out and the next hanging
around and getting into trouble. </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">About
that time I was into collecting records. I moved into the dorms and I
immediately became friends with a fella living down the hall. I had been listening
to the Talking Heads and other new wave bands. He had a couple of records…one
was the Sex Pistols and the other was Run DMC. It was hip-hop and punk rock all
at once. I felt, "Whoa, damn! The world is changing!” There was always a
lot of music involved, but I was more into the drug and party scene. Things got
pretty haywire up in Boulder. I was hanging with this hippy girl and her
friends who were selling pot and coke out of the apartment. One night we got
held-up at gunpoint. She was ready to get back in the coke business the next
day so I cut off my hair and said, "Fuck you hippies" and took off
with a backpack full of peyote buttons to hitchhike to New Mexico.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">Children of
Denial?</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">I
heard that punk rock was starting to happen in Denver and my brother was living
there. I got the hell out of Boulder and went to stay with him for 2-3 months
before I started going to shows and hanging out at Wax Trax. I remember the
first show I went to in Denver was the Festival of Pain. It was an industrial
show in a basement...there was a railroad track with violin strings and guitar
pickups and everyone was making a bunch of noise. I think they were playing
Throbbing Gristle on the sound system. It blew my mind, mostly because my
friend in Boulder had given me a little packet of what was going to be the next
big thing. I asked him ‘What is it?’. He said people were calling it different
names...it's MDMA. He gave me a pure quarter gram of what would later be called
ecstasy in the 90's. In 1983 it was still legal and nobody had ever heard of
it. I tried it that night and that's why the show left such a mark on me. I'll
never forget sitting there by the wall melting down to ‘Discipline.’ Was
another ten years before that came back around in a big way.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">I
met Chris Kieft, a hotshot guitar player at a record store and we both wanted
to start a band, so we became Children of Denial. One of our songs was ‘Sacred
Hatred’ which nearly became our name. Our heroes were Iggy Pop and Nick Cave,
or maybe Motorhead and Venom. Our practice space was a vault in a building in
Capitol Hill. It was my first squat. I could go stay with my brother, but this
was the place I could just hide, no one is going to say anything if I sleep in
here. Of course the goal in those days was to use whatever money you got on
partying and not on anything you can put a lock on or steal. So that is where
we played and I lived. We never had a PA system so I would scream over the
guitar and drums...we thought we were hot shit, better than any other band in
town. We only played out a couple of times in front of people. Our bassist was
a Latino guy and he was into dealing drugs so he was in and out. Our drummer
was a powerhouse named Martin Day. Any one of us could be the weak link in the
band. Bad mood, hangover, girl trouble, jail… When we had it together it was
rocking. </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">It
was such a wild time in Denver. Are there still cities in the world where young
people can just go and basically fuck-off, have fun, live on a super low
budget, and be creative? I was a big alcoholic in those days and I also knew
how to wait tables. I managed to keep a part-time waiter job to keep a few
bucks coming in, and because waiting tables is the best drinking on the job job
there is. There was certainly no long term vision, no goal...it was, "How
much money do we have, and where’s the party tonight?" </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">What was it
like living in the vaults? </span></i></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">I
didn't explore the tunnels much as most were sealed up. The vault I was in, you
went down into the basement and there were all these storage rooms with wooden
shelves. It was open from the main hallway. In the back with all the shelves
was the vault door, like a bank vault. In there was a just an 8 x 20 foot
concrete room, a long and narrow space. We had the band gear set up in there
plus I slopped a couple of mattresses I would crash on. I had a way of getting
in there at night and fixing the door to make it look like no one was in there.
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">How did you
get away with squatting and playing down there? </span></i></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">Chris
made some sort of agreement with the manager of the building to let us practice
down there; he knew we were using it as a practice space. He definitely didn't
know one of the band members had moved in. I wasn't too concerned about taking
showers or using the bathroom. It was a place to go crash out after I was done
drinking. </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">How long did
you live down there for?</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">Maybe
6 months off and on? I still went out to my brother’s place on West Colfax once
a week to take a shower and eat a real meal. The squat was right smack in the
middle of Capitol Hill where all the action was. In those days, you didn't pull
out your phone to figure out what was happening. You got out and went down to
Wax Trax, or the Mercury Cafe or Muddy’s—you got your fliers, and you figured
out what was going on that night. You got around on foot, we just all roamed
around the hill. </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">When
I left Boulder, I decided my driving days needed to be over. I had to make a
choice, drink or drive. I couldn't do both so I gave up the driving.
(Laughter). I left my last car for several years up in Boulder. </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">The
squat was cool, we practiced a couple of times a week, plus living there but it
all came to an end real fast. There was a firebug going around on the hill
lighting fires. Whoever it was, I don't know if they were malicious and knew I was
in the vault or just some crazy arsonist looking to light-up places. One night
I woke up smelling smoke and I'm like, “Holy Shit!” I got up and pushed open
the vault door. I was about 20 feet from the main door of the hallway. Someone
had come in and thrown gasoline on the wooden shelves and lit them while I was
sleeping. When I opened the vault door it was one of those split second
decisions; dive through the freaking flames and survive or roast like a
marshmallow. I dove headfirst and plowed through the fire, it scorched me a
little bit. I landed out in the hall coughing and spluttering...at that point,
I guess they knew I'm living there. Within 10-minutes the alarm had gone off
and the fire department was there. They sprayed our amps and my bed down with
water. That was the fastest eviction I ever had. I don't think anything was
salvaged. I don't think we ever practiced after that, though we might have
played a show. Something happened to Dave our bassist; I think he had to
disappear for a while. There wasn't a lot of mojo to keep the band going. </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">After
the vault burned up I needed another place to live. I met several people and
found the Leonard. About that time I met Paul, browsing the industrial records
section at Wax Trax. I was always into noisy stuff, punk was great, wild, and
crazy, but what's even wilder and crazier? The industrial noise was louder and
more edgy. Paul and I hit it off real quick. He schooled me a lot on the
industrial stuff going on like the culture. He had all the RE/Search books,
records...I don't know if he was the first, but several folks from Port Huron
moved to Denver: Kelly, Burt...They all brought their whole industrial music
repertoire. Human Head Transplant got underway and they started doing their
noise band. Paul and I became two of the weirder characters of the whole scene.
Since the punk band wasn't happening anymore, Paul and I were doing a lot of
dumpster diving in the alleys when I found a folder from the Pinkerton
Detective Agency. It had what became the We Never Sleep symbol on it. We were
like, "Man, that's us." So we named our band or whatever you want to
call our conceptual art thing that. It wasn't just getting together and making
noise, we had a poster campaign going on. </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">I
still was hooked up with my Boulder connections and that is what made me pretty
popular down in Denver. The punk rockers loved psychedelics—the kind of drugs
the Grateful Dead fans take. I was able to run up to Boulder and get all set
up. People were coming over to our place to get some serious stuff. </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">Did
you ever visit our apartment at the Leonard? </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">Paul
decorated the front room-he took the Charles Manson face that was on the cover
of LIFE magazine and wallpapered our entire front room, three out of our four
walls with little 4” x 6 " Charlie Manson’s. He took a Barbie doll and
little miniature scissors and fake-blood and did the whole reenactment of the
Sharon Tate murder scene. On the wall was a Sharon Tate memorial. People would
come over to the house on acid and walk into this room and see Paul sitting on
the floor with a shaved head doing what he was doing and listening to
impossible music they couldn't understand. (Laughter) One night we were at a
party in an upstairs loft and this young skinhead who had it in for Paul for
some reason comes charging up the stairs below me. In one of my more violent
split second decisions I cold-cocked him right between the eyes with a full
Heineken and rolled him right down the stairs. He actually came to our door
later with bandages on and apologized, I forget what the original hassle was
about. Another time I’ll never forget was when we worked with Tom Headbanger to
produce the Einstürzende Neubauten show at the junkyard. We had Blixa Bargeld
as our houseguest to get some rest before the show-he was traveling with a
black trash bag for luggage, and smelled worse than any gutter drunk or junky I
had ever encountered.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">For
a couple of years Tom Headbanger was the building manager there so to speak.
His job was to collect the rent each month and pass it along to the building
owner. One month the money didn’t make it to the owner...so he lost his job.
That’s when Big Billy Satan took over. The building started to take a little
more of an occult flair. They were all up into their own occult mojo so to
speak...Church of Satan...that sort of crap. </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">One
of the most remarkable memories I had of the Leonard was the whole skinhead
contingent. They had their own aesthetic, agenda, and they were into speed.
Back then, that stuff was rare. Most people did acid or mushrooms, occasionally
coke, but the skins seem to be the source of the speed, maybe they had some
sort of connection to the Hell’s Angels or another biker gang. Of course since
our moniker was We Never Sleep, we were right up there with them on taking
anything that would keep us going for a couple of days. Some of the skins lived
a couple of blocks from us. One night we heard all this commotion. There was a
big church on our block and it was on fire. I remember running around and
knocking on everybody’s door yelling: "The church is on fire! The church
is burning!” We all ran up on the roof of the Leonard at two in the morning
with bongs, beers, and lawn chairs. All these crazy people are up there
watching the church burn. The story at the time was the skins or punks had
something to do with the fire. It felt like an end of an era with the church
burning. Things were changing in Denver, how far was this going to go? </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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point were you done with Denver and decided to move to the bay area? </span></i></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">Paul
and I organized a mail art show in Denver. In those days there wasn't the
Internet. We had all these underground records and cassettes from all around
the world. They all have some sort of address on the back of them, so we
xeroxed up 100 trippy little invites and sent them all out to every address we
could find. The letter stated that it was an erotic mail art exhibition and
solicited pieces from people. It worked out well; we had 30-40 people send in
stuff. Some of the pieces were elaborate and others were cheesy and silly. I
did an installation for the show. I found a calf's head out in the pasture; it
was pretty gnarly with skin still on it. So in the corner of the gallery I set
the calf's head up on the torso of a mannequin body. I went to the butcher and
got a bunch of tripe and guts, whatever I could get. I ended up doing a
Hindu/Hare Krishna looking altar with the garlands around the neck of the deity
made of raw meat…. It was a little Denver spin on Krishna. </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">Did you go
to the Krishna temple for the free Sunday fest on 14th and Cherry? </span></i></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">Yeah,
we did that in Boulder, Denver, and later San Francisco. That was the joke,
we're a bunch of anarchist that go and eat free vegetarian food. Anyhow the
mail art show hooked us up with people from around the country and world. One
person we became acquainted with was GX Jupitter-Larsen and his associate Black
Humor up in Vancouver. The noise stuff he was doing, The Haters, when I heard
it I thought, "Wow, this is the next level." What he was doing was pure
explosions montaged together, the sounds of destruction. We all hit it off
well. In the summer Black Humor told Paul and I to get ourselves up to
Vancouver to house sit since he was going to be gone for a month. Paul and I
hitchhiked all the way up there on less than a $100. We booked a We Never Sleep
tour and played in a couple of galleries. I remember the Seattle show; the
gallery was so upset—we weren’t what they expected. They were begging us to
stop. They thought we were going to be calm and sophisticated and we’re
thinking, “How can we make as much racket and be as offensive as possible?”
(Laughter).<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">We
ended up in Vancouver and spent the month at Black Humor's apartment. He pretty
much had the first commercial digital sampler and when I saw it, I knew at the
time this was going to change the world. It was a big black box that could only
do an 8-bit sample. We understood the implications of it. This was going to
turn the music industry inside out. </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">You didn’t
have much money, how did you eat? </span></i></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">I
don't know how they let us across the boarder, we hardly had any money and we
told them we were only going for a couple of days. We went down to the alley
behind the Granville Market and dumpster dove for veggies and other outdated
food. </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">Paul
and I used to do this trick that we learned from Headbanger. Taco Bell used to
have salad bars, you could go there and for $1.99 get the salad bar. Tom had
big military jackets with huge pockets. Literally that was the scam: you would
go to Taco Bell, spend the $1.99, and eat as much off the salad bar as you
could and then you would load your pockets with everything. I'll never forget
Tom putting salad dressing right into his pocket and eating salad right out of it.
(Laughter) We pulled that kind of stuff on the road. We listened to the Charlie
Manson song, "Garbage Dump” - it was basically the dumpster diver's
anthem.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">While
we were in Vancouver we saw the Survival Research Laboratories (SRL) videos and
I was like, "These people are really blowing shit up!” The guys weren't just
talking about tearing things down; they were doing it with flamethrowers,
robots... Paul and I heard SRL was doing a show in Seattle. We found a number
for Mark Pauline and called him at his workshop in San Francisco. We told them
we could come down from Vancouver and volunteer to help set up their show. They
were, "Of course, we love volunteers, see you there." Paul and I
hitchhiked down there and found the parking lot where the show is going to be
and there was absolutely nobody there. We literally slept underneath a flatbed
semi truck in the pouring rain. The next day they showed up and we were there
on-site for a week getting ready for the show. We dived right into it—helping
them make props and putting things together. That was our first show with SRL.
A couple of weeks later in San Francisco they did a show at the opening of a
nightclub, DV8 under the freeway. Keith Haring did a big mural inside the club
for the event, I met him drinking champagne on the back stairway. The show was
insane; they almost had to shut down the freeway. It was one of most dangerous
feeling shows we did because it was packed and people were really close to some
extremely dangerous shit. Somehow Mark Pauline has amazing luck because he has
never killed anyone in the audience in all these years. Those were the two SRL
shows Paul and I worked on together. The We Never Sleep tour was pretty much
over. </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">It
was decision time; Paul was going back to Denver. I had my taste of flames and
metal and decided I'm working with Mark Pauline and SRL. I stayed on and rolled
up my sleeves. Six months later Eric Werner was throwing away a car, a Pinto
and I said, “Let me take it and I'll try driving it to Colorado.” I needed to
go back and get all of my records. I remember when I left I had a crate of 200
records and hocked them to Duane Davis. (Laughter). I'll never forget, he put
them up on a shelf in the basement. I think he gave me $100 to travel on. Paul
and I went separate ways from that point on and I never looked back to Denver. </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">During
my early years at SRL I was still drinking and partying hard, taking whatever
kind of drugs I could find on the street, squatting, living in cars. You see
homeless people now and they don't look like they're having much fun, but in those
days we were homeless-it was intentional, it was anarchy, it was a party. I
knew about all the soup kitchens and the places to eat like the John Coltrane
Church of Jazz where you could get free red beans and rice and figured out how
to get on San Francisco's cheap-ass welfare system. They would give you
$300/month, so I faked a foot problem. For a long time my life was living on
the street and every two weeks I would get a check for $150. First thing I
would do after cashing it, I would run right up to Haight Street and make the
best deal I could and spend at least $100 on acid, usually getting two sheets
and then I would sell singles to people. In those days, I was the most entitled
fuckhead of them all, I had a trench coat, shoplifting my Courvoisier and
caviar, eating in soup kitchens, living in a squat...SRL was an anchor for me.
I would go on binges for several days, then crawl back into the shop and slowly
come to. They’d let me sleep up on the tool loft and get me a burrito and put
me to work for a couple of days and then I’d go back to where the party was.
Mark was cool, he never judged me for being a waste case back in those days as
long as I could see straight when I picked up a power tool.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">SRL
started to have some pretty significant success and I had cleaned up my act
quite a bit by then. We had a tour to New York, Amsterdam and Copenhagen, and
another one to Barcelona. I ended up full time with SRL and did about 30 shows
over a period of 5-6 solid years. </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">The
best squat I ever had in San Francisco was because of an SRL show. We did it at
the old Yellow Cab warehouse south of Market. We did the show in the parking
lot and on the corner there was this big metal building that was the old
garage. Inside the building there was an office that had its own locks on it so
we had access to that. On the outside there were bathrooms with running water.
When we finished the show and moved all the machines out, I saw my opportunity,
so I changed all the locks and sealed up the place for myself. I had it for
almost a year and in a squatter’s life that's a long time. I didn't have
electricity. I had an old 12-volt television that I found somewhere and I would
go and jack car batteries and run my 12-volt TV between the channels so it
would have static and white noise on for light. And I had a tape deck in there
so I could listen to music. I had a couple of sofas and I slept up on a loft on
top of the shelves.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I actually had
parties and brought dates there. I made a massive ‘art’ installation out of
empty oil drums in the garage.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">When did
thing start to change? </span></i></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">I'm
on Haight Street one day and my friends are looking at me and I'm feeling sick.
One of them tells me, "You're looking really bad dude, your eyes are kind
of yellow, and you should really go talk to somebody." I was literally
across the street from the Free Clinic. I go in and the doctor tells me that
I'm showing all the symptoms of Hepatitis or it could be Jaundice. They asked
me what have I been doing lately. I told them I was living on maybe one burrito
and a half-gallon of Carlo Rossi a day. They told me, "You're basically
drinking yourself to death, you're 25 years-old and you’ll probably be dead in
a year if you don't pull your head out of your ass." I thought, "Oh
shit, I’ve really reached the end of the line." </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">I
had a German girlfriend in the Mission at that point...I stopped drinking for
3-weeks and went back on a bender drinking and doing speed for a week. That
time I relapsed really just about did me in. I remember climbing into her room
up the rain gutter on Florida street. I finally stopped drinking on my own. I
scored a bunch of cheap pot so I could smoke constantly, and went to Rainbow
Grocery and got little bags of any herb that could detox me and I started
quaffing down huge pots of medicinal tea. I also started eating a lot of ice
cream because my liver was craving the sugar; basically I weaned myself off the
booze with ice cream, and since I was used to veering into every corner store
for a beer I would now buy an It’s-It. I was still squatting, although by this
point I’d been flushed out of the Yellow Cab garage and was inhabiting a bed
made of dumpster-found leather scraps wedged between the hot-water heater and
the stairs behind the flat of some junkies on 14th Street. Most of my remaining
street friends were going seriously downhill at this point.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">Brian
King from SRL and Jeanette ‘Jin’ MacCulloch, a New Zealander whom I’d met while
she was a volunteer on our most recent show had a little room with a low
ceiling above the garage in their flat on 10th Street in SOMA with heat, which
was a big deal for me. They rented me the room for couple of hundred bucks a
month. Part of getting that room I knew had to do with flirting with Jin, we
were circling around and she needed a green card so she could stay in America
for her clothing business. I had started doing part-time work setting up A/V
projectors for conferences in order to make rent. She called me up one day at
work and said she was having trouble with her green card, "Will you marry
me? I need to stay in America" I was, “Um, what the hell, ok, sure!” Since
we were at that point officially engaged, we fell right into it and the romance
was on. We immediately set up a fabric workshop on a side street in the Mission
and within a few months found a tiny shop on Haight Street for $900/mo, a block
from Golden Gate Park, which was the first location for the store she named
Ameba. I built huge impressive industrial style fixtures at the SRL shop. My
luck had totally turned around when I stopped drinking. Someone gave me a 1967
VW Bus. Since I wasn't drinking, I could drive! We used our deposit money to
open the shop and were living in the van for the first month we were open. I
remember sleeping near Ocean Beach a few times and jumping in the surf in the
morning to freshen up before going and opening up shop. It was very bizarre to
be both ‘homeless’ and ‘in business’ at the same time. My former street cronies
were baffled to see me behind the counter with a broom in my hand scarcely a
year since we’d been in line together at the soup kitchen. I was with Jin for
about 5 years, and our daughter Isabelle was born when the shop had been open
about a year. They anchored me to stay off the booze and drugs for sure and
decided to move back to New Zealand in the end.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">One
day this girl from England named Emma comes into Ameba and says her boyfriend
is a DJ named Jeno and he makes “mix tapes.” She tells us it's underground
music, acid house, the latest thing in England, and would we like to sell them
exclusively under the counter? I was like, “What? Never heard of it, sounds
good, sure!” Our clothing fit the acid house aesthetic. That's when I
discovered all this exciting new dance music that had been happening. I fell
hook, line, and sinker for it. I would dance myself to oblivion in the back of
the store at night to the tape called Energy, it was a rough time in some ways
and that tape, and remembering how much I needed to dance saved my life. For
quite a while I didn’t know there was anyplace to hear it live, and then suddenly
there were Full Moon parties on the beach and late-night parties in warehouses
and basements everywhere. Our store on Haight became the epicenter of the San
Francisco rave explosion. I was about 10 years older than everybody else and
had stopped drinking, so the early parties that weren’t in bars and were more
psychedelically oriented appealed to me more. It felt like we were part of
something on a spiritual tip like the mid-sixties, and I know most of us felt
much like the punks did—this was a special time in history that would only be
new once. I was lucky to experience, (and survive) both eras.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">For
me, one thing always leads to the next. I find it much more useful to
continually create my personal zeitgeist in relation to the present rather than
indulge in nostalgia or historical recreations. Now that the Internet exists,
all the genres exist simultaneously forever and I not sure if anything new can
possibly happen anywhere. What becomes more clear over time is that humanity
crossed a huge tipping point in our dance with technology during those chaotic
decades of the 60’s to 90’s. So it’s hugely meaningful and valuable to tell the
stories and create the context for all the key cultural moments that will shape
us forever and never happen the same way again.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">For many people out
there Bob Ferbrache is sort of an enigma in the Denver underground music
scene. He has pretty much covered all the genres from punk, to noise, to
industrial, to Goth, and has been involved with a hybrid of neofolk/sound collaging/Celtic
group for the past 20 years. It’s a safe bet that he has tried just about
anything once music or recording wise. After my conversations with Bob, I found
him to be more of a music enthusiast with an incessant thirst to explore and
experiment with sound. <o:p></o:p></i></div>
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<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bob is often credited
for discovering and fine tuning the so-called Denver sound where some might
argue started with the Frantix-My Dad’s a Fuckin’ Alcoholic EP (his first
attempt at recording music that wasn’t his own). Following his punk start he
moved on to capture and help influence the recorded outputs by: Human Head
Transplant, Warlock Pinchers, 16 Horsepower, Slim Cessna's Auto Club, and the
controversial Blood Axis-The Gospel Of Inhumanity LP (Michael Moynihan’s band
and co-author of Lords of Chaos: The Bloody Rise of the Satanic Metal
Underground)-the above is merely a splash of his accomplishments. <o:p></o:p></i></div>
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<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bob, Big Bad Bob,
Robert or any combination thereof is no stranger to controversy. He’s been
threatened and labeled all sorts things, from a maniacal Carpenters fan (as in
Karen Carpenter), to a Satanist, to a neo-Nazi, just to name a few that have
been thrown out there. “Also if you were looking for more notorious accusations
leveled at me I was accused of the JonBenét Ramsey murder by CBS news. It's a
funny story that was perpetrated by Andrew of the Warlock Pinchers. It even got
me questioned by Boulder’s District Attorney.” Although he has been
self-employed for the past 30 years recording, producing, and playing in
bands, he has quite a list of other experiences that have taken him around the
globe. He doesn’t play up his achievements; he matter-of-factly describes his
work as if he is walking to his favorite sandwich shop down the street.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></i></div>
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<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">On a short trip back
to Denver I headed over to Bob’s house in Federal Heights. In my conversations
with Davey of the Frantix, he had mentioned that Bob turned him on to Trappist
beer from Belgium, specifically Chimay. I arrived prepared with a couple
bottles of Belgium brews in a brown paper sack; a tripel and a gueuze in case you're wondering. We
chatted a little and thought we should go grab sandwiches and a couple more
bottles of Belgium beers to continue our education. The evening even included
summoning Davey on the telephone.<o:p></o:p></i></div>
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<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Living in Egypt was
another topic that popped up; an experience we both had in common. Bob was
amazed how American soap opera stars past their prime were not only still relevant,
but all the rage and treated like royalty over there. Former president Mubarak even
invited the cast from one of the more popular stories to his palace. “They also
showed western movies on TV when I lived there with all this gang violence and
the dialogue is like, "I'm going to shoot your motherfucker…" but
then they would cut out parts where people are kissing or about to walk into a
brothel.” I relayed back to Bob the one night my wife and I were watching a
cooking show and the word “pork” was bleeped out. The Egypt conversation ended
when he told the story about asking a visiting friend to bring him a hit of LSD.
“The calls to prayer are so dense, it has a psychedelic edge…by design I wanted
to try out acid at the City of the Dead. I hung out there all night long by myself.
Lots of people live in there inside the tombs. Family members of the people
that have died surfaced at night.” It was his last time taking acid. <o:p></o:p></i></div>
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<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">The conversation
turned to touring Europe with his band Blood Axis and how music and the arts
are more revered compared with the states. According to Bob, sales wise the
band’s The Gospel Of Inhumanity LP was as successful as all of his other
projects put together. <o:p></o:p></i></div>
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<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">After all this chatting I finally hit the
record button. <o:p></o:p></i></div>
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<tr><td style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEikVJ34kE2MrtIXamkYf-TmeM3VpYsvILycfdY4a-ggEFFKaxg-RX510_mrDpQsnkoljfaccsd3PpLBhKBgBdDwpVnoJL84tibXr7POUl5OfBSTB0O1yNm-eR-QQcUl0ylIOWDdmeCkp5Mn/s1600/UNX+small+copy.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><i><img border="0" height="271" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEikVJ34kE2MrtIXamkYf-TmeM3VpYsvILycfdY4a-ggEFFKaxg-RX510_mrDpQsnkoljfaccsd3PpLBhKBgBdDwpVnoJL84tibXr7POUl5OfBSTB0O1yNm-eR-QQcUl0ylIOWDdmeCkp5Mn/s400/UNX+small+copy.jpg" style="cursor: move;" width="400" /></i></a></td></tr>
<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>UNX at the Packinghouse in 1983. Original photograph courtesy of<br />Jill Razer's <a href="https://www.facebook.com/denverpunkscene?fref=ts" target="_blank">Denver Punk Scene page</a>. Brush and ink drawing by Bob Rob (Medina). </i></span></td></tr>
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…In recording The Itchy-O Marching Band LP, Jello Biafra is
always going to shows looking for new bands. He was genuinely interested in
putting out their record. A year later after he signed the band and released
the album he called me up to tell me the Itchy-O record was the best I ever
made, ever. I was like, "Do you remember when...” I'm grateful he put it
out. He didn't put it out because he's my friend and did it gratuitously; he released
it because he heard something he liked. At the release show I must have had a
dozen people get into my face telling me “nobody can record them” or “nobody
can do them justice” and not a single one of them had listened to the fucking
record. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">I admit I was surprised when I heard the album. I was in Denver for a
couple of days and saw the album by chance at Wax Tax. I had seen the band a
couple of times and always thought, "How could someone capture that?"
I shot video with my camera and showed it to my students in Egypt several years
ago. They were dumbfounded by the onslaught of imagery: the size of the group,
the flames, the hearse, the flags, and the overall procession. So I had my
doubts when I saw the record. I took a chance and bought it. I was surprised on
how clean, clear and organized the music is. You layered it quite well. And to
be honest, I didn't know you recorded it. <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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Most songs have over 100 tracks on it...When I recorded the
Foreskin 500 album that was on a 16-track and an early 2-track digital thing. I
would record two tracks at a time, mix it and dump it on the reel tracks. It
was one of the first albums ever done that way; it became standard practice.
For Denver and music in general, the Foreskin 500 album was groundbreaking. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">It seemed like a lot creative endeavors from the early 80's Denver
music scene was fueled by the process to problem solve, survival, and the need
for expression. In my opinion, it seems like a lot of us just thought up stuff
and did it. You got into recording because you wanted to do it yourself?</i></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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I can't get a job at all-I've been self-employed for 30
years. Technology has changed that quite a bit. Everybody is doing what I did
now with their laptops or IPhones. People are making whole albums with Garage
Band.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">That's a pretty significant change. Most of the bands I was in as a
teen couldn't afford to go into a studio-at best we had ghettobaster
recordings. Think of all those bands that never had a chance to make a proper
recording or to have their songs documented. Nowadays everything is
over-documented…people pulling out their phones and snapping pictures and
shooting video of the most mundane shit possible.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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It gives a lot of bands that didn't have the ability to do
it now, but it also gives a lot of idiots that shouldn't have that ability, the
ability to do it. During that punk rock era, that was sort of my legacy-documenting
some of the Denver bands during that time. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">How did you get involved in recording? <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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I wanted to do it myself. That is about as basic as it can
be. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Because you had a band and you wanted to record the music yourself?<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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I always had bands here and there during that time. D.I.Y. started happening. I had cassette tape recorders and started bouncing tracks
off each other. I initially did that on a 4-track cassette recorder. By the
time I recorded the Warlock Pinchers-Pinch a Loaf, I was using an 8-track reel
to reel. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span">Jello Biafra and I were friends before he was in the Dead
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when I came back I started meeting like-minded people...bands that were doing
original music, politically motivated, thrashing...and a lot of that ended up
being done by 15 year-old kids. People my age were dressing up in spandex and
playing cover songs. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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We were rival record collectors. We would go to the record
stores at the same time and would fight over the same record. I wasn't
competing that much because Boulder was their turf. Jello, this guy Sam and
Joe were competing. I'd pop by for a little bout. I owned Wax Trax (laughter). <o:p></o:p></div>
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That was an interesting project-we took elements of
hardcore. I hooked up with the rhythm section, the Swank brothers. Miguel was
11 and Chris was 15 at the time. Their ages added up together equaled mine.
People my age weren't into playing that sort of stuff, they weren't even
interested in playing Sabbath-they just wanted to play that strummy Eagle's
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The UNX played a show, maybe with DOA (?) at Taste of
Denver. They wouldn't let our drummer into the show because he was 11. When we
were loading in I carried in the drums, emptied the bass drum case then went
back out to put him in it and carried him in to the show. Once we got on stage,
we played and it was done. <o:p></o:p></div>
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hardcore crunch sounds that you captured with other bands at the time. It
sounded like you wanted to experiment with a nosier direction guitar wise. Were
you looking to expand beyond a punk sound? <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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The obvious transcription would be metal at that point. The
guitar sound got heavier and noisier. With Human Head Transplant and The Soul
Merchants, that was very heavy stuff. That was the next phase right there. It's
way heavier than the punk shit that I was doing despite the melody, harmony and
the rhythm of that. It had a very Beatle-esque romance to it as opposed to one
chord dissonance. UNX was really fun for a year. <o:p></o:p></div>
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There were many different circumstance-they were little
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No, not really. I was immature, still am (laughter). I could
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I had a friend Steve Lobdell; I think he played guitar in
Problem Youth...though later he ended up playing in Faust for a while. He was
16 and he was really advanced at playing. I gravitated to him a little because
of his talent. He introduced me to the Swank brothers. He told me they were
looking for a guitar player so we started playing together just like that. By
that time I had already knew the Frantix because I recorded the first record
for them. <o:p></o:p></div>
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The Frantix recording was the first thing I did other than
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I think it was Matt or Ricky who brought it up, so we had a
party Davey’s mom’s house and set-up and recorded the songs and did the vocals
right there. It was done in one afternoon. <o:p></o:p></div>
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The real secret was that it was done then and forever blown
in the wind. He had a little amp that was blown up to start with. He had a
bunch of small Peaveys at one time that were painted pink and blue psychedelic
colors. He got the acoustic amp later that blew-up and burned down the Fluid, maybe
it was technically the Madhouse practice space. (Laughter) He got the amp
because it was the loudest he ever heard. It came from me. Somehow it caught on
fire and burned the space up.<o:p></o:p></div>
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Ferbrache: He’s basically calling you because I can't answer
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Davey: If you bring Chimay ale you've got every answer. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Davey: Did you ask Bob Ferbrache about the whole experience
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Ferbrache: That's why we are calling you because I can't
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Davey: Bob, that was the greatest. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Davey:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>So Bob shows
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Davey: He shows up and says he's got a little this and this, 3 microphones and we're like. “Yeah, man, fuck yeah.” My mom's upstairs
drinking a cup of coffee at the kitchen table. What Bob witnessed was with a
real football, not a Nerf. We're standing around in a circle throwing it as
hard as we can at each other's face while Bob is taking his shit in. We don't
even stop; we're like, "Yeah, take it downstairs to the family room."
Ok, we had challenged a whole rival pack of young adults to a tackle unpadded
football game. And this is the whole truth. Early in the morning we've been
playing tackle football in the park with a bunch of young thugs and we beat the
fuck out of each other. We were bruised and everything else. Bob shows up and
we're 3-4 hours into this thing and he goes, "We gotta record this thing
today!" We're like, "Yeah, that's cool' and we all high-five each
other and get back to business. So Bob brings in the three microphones, a
Fender amplifier while we're trying to see who can throw a football the hardest
and knock out or bandmates. Bob steps outside in the middle of all of this and
says "Are you guys ready to go?" We went in, and did it on one take.
It was one sound check. Bob brought in his own amplifier. Ricky plugged into
Bob's amp and went, “Nope.” So Ricky used his Peavey pacer amplifier and it had
caught on fire a couple of nights before at the Packinghouse. We got into a
situation loading out and grabbed drums and amplifier and threw over our heads into
a back of a pick-up truck. Anyhow, Bob goes, "I don't think this is
good." Rick fucks around with the amp a little bit and goes, "This is
good Bob." and Bob goes, "I guess we'll do a take." That was the
deal. One take. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Davey: No, no we did that every time we played. (Laughter)
It wasn't a situation, it was, "Let's get the fuck outta here." Bob,
do you remember some cat where the Highlands is now right off of 23rd street
and I-25?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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Davey: I think Bart the skater had a hand in a house
destruction party there. Bob Rob, somebody had an old house that was going to
be torn down in a few weeks, and put up a flier for a home destruction party
and invited every miscreant deviant; we didn't give a shit. It was a show with no
PA and the whole point of the show was to destroy this fucking house and all
these people did. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Here's the most important thing, you know how Pete Best was
the fifth Beatle? Well, Bob Ferbrache is the fifth Frantix. There was one point
before the Madhouse thing where we got out of the Frantix and didn't know what
we were going to do and ended up being the Fluid and the Fluid ended up being
the Frantix and Rick died. Bob was always right there. <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">(End of phone call)</i><o:p></o:p></div>
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It was, but I also like the discipline of working with other
people. My major band during that time was the Soul Merchants. It was still in
the underground realm, we played with Bum Kon, the Fluid and all those bands.
We were more textured and for a lack of a better description, we were a Goth
band. We dressed in black and greased our hair.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
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I saw them as a three piece, I really liked them, and they
had a lot of good songs-I like good songs. The guitar player was a long time
friend of mine and I didn't even know he was in the band. I told him, “If you
had one more instrument in the group, you’d be incredible.” He said, "I
know what you mean." So I started playing with them the next day.
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suggestion on how to fix it, preferably affixing yourself into the equation. <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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We recorded and the band had so much material. In a period
of 3 years time, we had close to 80 songs recorded. We released two cassettes,
and an album...the album was only made because I stumbled across a pressing
plant in Canada that was reasonable and would press a 1000 copies. Three
records were made because I found that plant: The Fluid's <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Punch in Judy</i>, Bum Kon's <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Ground
Round</i> and our record. Smooch (Andrew Murphy) reissued a Soul Merchants
double CD and the entire 4- track cassette Bum Kon Recordings.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Rumor was that nobody knew about all those other songs on the Bum Kon
recording session, was that tape was lying around on a shelf?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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I knew about it, I'm sure Bob McDonald knew about it. I
mixed it once and sent it to him; in fact I sent it to him a couple of times. <o:p></o:p></div>
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material sitting around; I guess they had other priorities. <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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I remember going through all my four-track cassettes and I
had a few things and found an incredible Jux County recording. There was a
Peace Core recording that was never done. I took all the Jux material and gave
it to Mike Serviolo.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>He has them so if
he ever wants to mix them... That's where the Bum Kon recordings was; they just
sat there.<o:p></o:p></div>
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and started recording, it evolved into that. I phased out of Soul Merchants and
phased into HHT. Initially, I had a producer role in HHT; we were always trying
different things. We were doing pop music and industrial. One week we would
play a sadomasochistic industrial show, which was a wall of sound of noise
protesting the Supreme Court actions on the sodomy ruling in 86 and a month
later we would come back and play computerized pop music. <o:p></o:p></div>
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that was much interested in the wide aspect of it. I liked doing it because I
liked to have a good time playing parties, getting fucked-up, and carrying a
gun. To be the rock star...that wasn't my interests in it. I worked with all
those other bands and recording them. I was more interested in that realm of
it. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Did you help bands find their sound when you recorded them? <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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The role in that is, a lot of band never heard themselves
before and they realize good or bad... a lot times someone hears themselves
after being recorded and say, "We sound like that, Oh my God, we need to
do something about that." Even to this day I do records with bands for
what they want. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">You’ve also help bands solve problems on the go?</i></b><o:p></o:p></div>
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I remember a situation once were the Fluid were playing in
Boulder at the Depot. The Soul Merchants played up there quite a bit. During
one show Matt's on the mic yelling at me and I go, "What the fuck do you want?"
He was trying to get me to come up on stage because his amp was fucked up, I
realized it was a fuse in his amplifier and I didn't any fuses left. What I had
was a pack of gum in my pocket when gum was wrapped in aluminum foil. So I wrapped
the fuse in the foil and stuck it back in and it worked. Since he saw me do
this before, maybe they tried to fix Ricky's amp the same way and that's how it
caught on fire burned down the Madhouse practice space. <o:p></o:p></div>
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I fixed may fuses with foil, even a HHT show in the
Netherlands where we blew out transformers. We blew all this shit up; we took
our own transformers there and fixed them on stage with foil for all three
people that were in the audience. We had great shows in Europe except that
night. We were playing an art galley and it would have been great if 50 people
showed up, but Fugazi was playing next door. The sound guy came in and did a
sound check for us and left it up to us because he wanted to go see Fugazi, he
didn't even want to stay at the show he was being paid to do sound at.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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I was talking with Davey not to long ago and he told me that
I turned on to good beer. He said that I was drinking a bottle of Chimay beer
at a Husker Du show at Kennedy’s standing in the front watching the band. I
don't have one recollection of that whatsoever. That’s why he brought it up in
our phone call. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<tr><td style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhDbjZyiSbR8xYooGQhO0ZCuJccJfUyteyyPzI5i-3HZEu8zjEYT0XsNnFKZJCkkdQP87xTm7LyERKzGbCGVyaldTqw746KypsuVB4RRVOgxC-r1NXoKr0TxalZ9FNJHXFaA7FP_Dq42lBO/s1600/1987-12-15__zozobra__1037_walnut_boulder+copy.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><i><img border="0" height="400" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhDbjZyiSbR8xYooGQhO0ZCuJccJfUyteyyPzI5i-3HZEu8zjEYT0XsNnFKZJCkkdQP87xTm7LyERKzGbCGVyaldTqw746KypsuVB4RRVOgxC-r1NXoKr0TxalZ9FNJHXFaA7FP_Dq42lBO/s400/1987-12-15__zozobra__1037_walnut_boulder+copy.jpg" style="cursor: move;" width="307" /></i></a></td></tr>
<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i> Zozobra is one of Bob's lesser known bands.<br />Flier courtesy of <a href="http://www.trashistruth.com/" target="_blank">trashistruth.com</a></i></span></td></tr>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">That's funny because he was telling me about going to Albertsons and
picking up a cheap 12-pack of whatever is on sale like Miller or MGD. I'm
thinking, "Why would you do that, there are so many good beers out
there?" I brew; I've made several trips to Belgium and rode bikes to
breweries. I'm a fan of Belgium beers. <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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We played (Slim Cessna’s Auto Club) Belgium in the town
where Duvel is made. It was a youth center where they had a concert hall; it
was literally next door to the brewery. We go backstage and the promoter tells
us, "We have a whole refrigerator full of beer for you, your kind of
beer." He had imported American Budweiser. I go. "I don't drink that
shit, even when I'm in America." He was, "Oh...do you want some
Duval?" I was, "Yeah," He leaves and comes back with 10 cases. (Laughter).
I drank like 8 bottles. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">You must have been pretty messed up, it's like close to 9% alcohol. <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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We revived HHT one last time to make a CD in 91. Bert and I
moved to Seattle at the end of 89 for a couple of years then I came back here.
I hooked up with the Haters and did a tour. HHT did a tour in Europe and
everyone was all into it. We were like, "How did everyone hear about
us." That's how strong the underground cassette culture was.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></div>
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Bob Rob Medinahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05818604452391830233noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1007449741570868085.post-42591956949998975582015-06-24T08:22:00.000-07:002015-06-24T10:00:17.471-07:00Patrick Barber talks about Ante Bellum, Expatriate, and Colorado Springs punk. <div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
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<i><span style="color: black; mso-ascii-font-family: Cambria; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: Cambria;">60 miles south of
Denver sits a wet dream of one of America’s highest profile industrial military
complex and what my parents referred to a town full of holy rollers know as
Colorado Springs. In layman’s terms, “The Springs” is sandwiched between the
Air Force Academy to the north, Fort Carson Army base to the south, with
Peterson Air Force base guarding the east and Pikes Peak as a natural buffer to
the west. As a child driving through The Springs meant the hopes of catching
gliders in the sky, billboards for the North Pole: Santa’s Workshop, Garden of
the Gods, Pro Rodeo Hall of Fame, and army tanks on maneuvers rolling over
hills. My impression from a car window view was the town equaled one huge
playground I was continually denied of. The only time my family indulged me a
little was when they pulled off the interstate for a quick bite at Denny’s.
Other than playing a handful of shows down there in my late teens and early
20’s the place still remains a mystery to me. </span></i><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<i><span style="color: black; mso-ascii-font-family: Cambria; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: Cambria;">During the early
80’s, what intrigued most of my friends and I about Colorado Springs was NORAD,
short for North American Aerospace Defense Command-a bunker type fortress
tucked inside the Cheyenne Mountain Complex made famous in the 1983 movie,
WarGames. The film plays up America’s cold war obsession of being on the
constant brink of World War III with loosely thrown phrases such as
M.A.D.-Mutually Assured Destruction. Nuclear war paranoia was a pasture for
where a great number of punk anthems were written on.</span></i><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<i><span style="color: black; mso-ascii-font-family: Cambria; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: Cambria;">I supposed I was
flabbergasted when I learned there was punk rock in Colorado Springs. The town
seemed like a breeding ground for acid rocker dropout types tearing up the
streets in muscle cars. Of course I imagined these types of kids coming from
postwar ranch styled homes with manicured lawns looking to piss off their
retired military fathers. </span></i><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<i><span style="color: black; mso-ascii-font-family: Cambria; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: Cambria;">Ante Bellum was the
first punk band I knew of from The Springs, mainly because I remember making a
flier for a show where my band was set to be the opener. As mostly intact as my
memory is, it is suspect if the band actually played that particular night.
However I do recall seeing them a handful of times and thought their set was a
solid mix of punk and hardcore with emerging metal licks, a trend many bands
were flirting with at the time. In Ante Bellum’s case, they were a cut above
the rest at playing it. </span></i><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<i><span style="color: black; mso-ascii-font-family: Cambria; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: Cambria;">The band eventually
folded leaving guitarist Dennis and bassist Patrick to form Expatriate. This is
about the time I became friendly with Patrick and asked them to contribute a
song to one of my Colorado Krew compilations. Live, Expatriate raged beating
listeners to a pulp. Had they been from either coast, more accessible, the band
had the chops to be huge. They often played with their sibling, Dead Silence
and proved to be an ideal combo on any given night. </span></i><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<i><span style="color: black; mso-ascii-font-family: Cambria; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: Cambria;">Patrick was a
prominent figure in the Colorado Springs music scene helping mold Mosh Pit
Records with his business partner Wendy and later their fanzine, The Pit—a
staple in the underground metal scene. One thing I could vouch for Patrick on
was his commitment to helping out other bands and tirelessly working on getting
his label out there. He always came across as half-full sort of guy and brought
a positive can-do energy to the scene at large. </span></i><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<i><span style="color: black; mso-ascii-font-family: Cambria; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: Cambria;">It has been decades
since we last chatted. I felt it was essential that he be included in this
project so us non-believers could get the real scoop on what it was like to be
a punk rocker from Colorado Springs.</span></i><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><i><span style="color: black; mso-ascii-font-family: Cambria; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: Cambria;">I read that Ante
Bellum started out as No Truce, a high school band? Did you play any sort of
battle of the bands losing to a classmate’s lame version of Hotel California? </span></i></b><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: black; mso-ascii-font-family: Cambria; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: Cambria;">No Truce was a band
I started with two friends from school and a young woman I knew named Bonnie
Ramsey who was a punk rock DJ at a local college station. I would hang out with
her at her punk rock radio show.</span><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: black; mso-ascii-font-family: Cambria; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: Cambria;">The way I remember
it, Dennis, Sean, and Dave, who I had not met before the talent show or
whatever it was, were looking for a bass player. They heard about my band
through a friend of theirs who had talked to Bonnie.</span><span style="color: black; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"> </span><span style="color: black; mso-ascii-font-family: Cambria; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: Cambria;">This was in 1984; I
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<span style="color: black; mso-ascii-font-family: Cambria; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: Cambria;">So Dennis and Sean
came to my school’s talent show to see my band. It all sounds very
after-school-special except you gotta remember we were really terrible and
could barely play our instruments. We did <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Louie
Louie</i> and possibly an original punk song or two.</span><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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said they were looking for a bass player and a drummer and we may have had a
practice session or two. Then it came out they already had a drummer or maybe
Bonnie had quit and we got Dave. It went something like that.</span><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: black; mso-ascii-font-family: Cambria; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: Cambria;">So Ante Bellum was
a completely different band from No Truce: I played bass, Sean MacDonough on
vocals, Dennis McPherson on guitar, and Dave Fruh on drums. It took us a while
to settle on the name.</span><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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a hotbed for conservatism, what sort of reactions did punks face living there.
What was it like to going to shows there?</span></i></b><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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much different from everything else in Colorado Springs. It was fun to act like
we were oppressed punk rockers fighting against the system. In reality we were
having a great time and the resistance we faced as a band (or as a punk rocker)
were the same we’d faced doing any other kind of art—there isn’t much place for
it in a town like Colorado Springs. You mostly work with people in a small
group who also have similar interests. In your interview with Headbanger, he
summarized the way it was back then: when you met anyone who shared your
interest in underground music, you suddenly had an awful lot in common.</span><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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threatened. There were drunks copping attitude late night at Denny’s or people
hollering at you from their cars because they noticed your fluorescent high
tops. At least, I didn’t feel threatened. The most threatened I ever felt was
not from jocks or rednecks, but from skins in Denver. Even that wasn’t so much,
but the skins were more hazardous than the general populace for sure.</span><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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in light of what it’s like to be a young black man in this country right now it
is easy for me to see how much privilege I had as a young white man in a
Colorado town in the 1980s and how easy and fun it was to do whatever the hell
we wanted. We started fanzines, rented clubs, put on shows, operated tiny businesses
with no experience…we were teenagers. Of course it was difficult! But we got
away with it, which in retrospect seems more like a gift than a struggle. Sure
it was a lot of work, but I loved every scrap of it. </span><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Springs always seemed to have a good relationship with Denver’s. Our bands
would go down there and you guys would come up here. What places were there to
play down there? How big was the scene in the early to mid-80’s besides Ante
bellum and the Creeps? </span></i></b><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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other bands around. We shared a practice space with Willy the Disk, who
fashioned themselves as an agri-(as in agricultural)core band; mostly guys from
the Midwest, from small farm towns who went to Colorado College. I don't
remember a lot of the other bands’ names, though there were some cover bands of
note that we sometimes would play with. The Auto No in particular.</span><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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play, Bennys Basement was a 3.2 bar on the Colorado College campus. They would
sometimes have all ages shows and other times they would just let kids in even
though they were underage. You could even drink watered down beer. </span><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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bar in another basement, across the street from the campus. We did a couple of
shows there including at least one all ages show. Corrosion of Conformity
played there in the summer of 1984 and that must have been all ages. I think we
did another big all ages show in fall of that year because I remember getting a
lot of kids from my school to show up and it was packed.</span><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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was this old country bar, formerly the Wagon Wheel? out on East Platte. Dennis
managed to talk some club manager guy into funding it as an all-ages club, and
we pulled it off for a few months, though it didn't last long. I can’t remember
why…it was probably tough to pay the bills without selling alcohol. It was a
great place though, big empty box with a huge dance floor and decent sound. We
played there a lot. Bum Kon played there as well; I remember bumping into Mark
as he was coming in for his set.</span><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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put on shows at DJ’s Nightclub, the place where we met Wendy, our future
manager and collaborator on Mosh Pit et al. And at a goth-y 3.2 bar called the
Annex, which was a regular hangout even when there weren’t shows going on. We
managed some all-ages shows at both venues, as well. </span><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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when Dennis and I were playing as Expatriate, we played a wider range of venues.
When I was working with Mosh Pit, Wendy and I would put on all ages shows at
rented spaces, private clubs, Elks Lodges, and the like. The venues varied
more. We were really pushing the all ages thing so we played in fewer bars.
There were so many kids looking for something to do and this was when metal and
punk were starting to mix more, which really increased the number of bands in
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playing down there. Bob mentioned that one of the news channels ran an episode
on the punk scene in the Springs and taped some bands at a show, what do you
know about this?</span></i></b><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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the TV thing, but I remember two times that Bum Kon played in the Springs, once
at Benny’s and once at the Germanic Hall with the Fluid and Ante Bellum.</span><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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the live Ante Bellum tape. I hear some strong metal influences, was the band
more of a hybrid, maybe punk attitude and more thrash? What were you guys
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Ante Bellum recordings I am struck by how unformed the music feels. Yes it’s
influenced by metal. Dennis was into older British metal like Black Sabbath and
really introduced me to that whole sound. Sean was listening to a lot of Dio
and Iron Maiden. I liked faster metal too, along with hardcore punk. We were
all listening to a lot of things. I liked hip hop and big band, Dave was really
into the Police and Dennis listened to lots of stuff. Both Dennis and I were
into all of the current music that was happening in punk, hardcore and metal.
It seems like the late 80s/early 90s were something of a renaissance for
underground music, in particular small punk rock bands. It was great to be a
part of that whole effort and have all that new music to listen to.</span><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Bellum being sort of political. I definitely considered punk rock as a way to
comment on political situations and events. Listening to the recordings I
remember that our songs with lyrics by Sean were more personal with some
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explicitly political and almost a protest band, if only anyone could have
understood the words. There were some love songs in there too, though. I was
doing a lot of the lyric writing at that point and I had a lot to say about the
Space Defense Initiative, environmental justice, censorship, and other topics.</span><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Sean’s songs, again a personal thing. I don't remember if there was a textual
hook other than “Jocks are lame”, but probably someone got beat up in that
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adversities did you faced as a band? I don’t know why, but I have Blues
Brothers vision of you guys playing a bar behind chicken wire and a bunch of
cowboys calling you guys’ faggots and throwing empty cans of Coors at you?
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never happened. When I was in Blowhole, a free-jazz/noise band a few years
later it happened all the time…well, not literally, but we cleared many a room
in Colorado Springs, later in Seattle, and all up and down the west coast. Free
jazz was the new punk circa 1994.</span><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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recorded two demo tapes in a real studio. It sounds weird to say it now, but I
don’t think it ever occurred to us to release music ourselves on tape or
otherwise. A few years later I was swimming in self-released product of
my own and many others, but even then it was a real departure from the status
quo to create your own product, your own record label, etc. That didn’t stop
people from doing it, but it sure was a different climate back then. Nowadays
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Ante Bellum’s approach was to make a demo or two and then in the style of the
time we would shop it around to labels. We did send tapes to Metal Blade, SST,
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were performing as Expatriate we went into the studio with the intent of
releasing our own record after scraping up cash and so forth. Again, it was a
long time ago, but making records and recording in the studio was not cheap. We
were all minimum-wage workers so it was a tough situation at best. The
Expatriate record did pretty well and helped us start up the distribution
network that I continued to work on for several years…which is a whole ’nother
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the band reach the point of no return, run out of fuel? You and Dennis
continued playing together and went on to form Expatriate immediately after
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<span style="color: black; mso-ascii-font-family: Cambria; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: Cambria;">I remember it was
right when I was about to graduate high school. Spring 1986. You know, we got
to the point where we had different goals. I had an email exchange with Dennis
about six years ago that filled in some of the details. We had been sending out
tapes to labels with no real interest coming back. Sean and Dave had real
criticisms about how we weren’t getting paid and should be. There was
disagreement about whether or not we should be aiming for labels or doing it
ourselves, I don’t remember. I was young, naïve, and didn’t care about making
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<span style="color: black; mso-ascii-font-family: Cambria; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: Cambria;">So after that
meeting we split up. Dennis and I resolved to find a drummer and start a trio
later that summer. I wanted to try singing and we thought a three-piece would
be simpler and tighter. We found Pete Schroll playing in the band, No Fashion. We
politely scooped him up and started Expatriate that summer. I loved Ante
Bellum, for sure, but Expatriate was my baby. Dennis’s too, I mean we were
locked in and we pushed that band as hard as we could. We had a great run of
it, but not very long- late summer 1986 until spring of 1988. We did the record
in 1987. Played a ton of shows all up and down the Front Range. Had some
seriously fantastic shows, experiences, and played with a lot of amazing bands.
We were fortunate to get on as the opener for a lot of "big" punk
shows right at the time when Suicidal Tendencies, The Exploited, etc were
headlining shows at places like Norman's. I still occasionally hear from people
who saw us at one of those shows and remember it. </span><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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about it, we were really good friends and had great times playing shows
together and hanging out. We traveled together to Rapid City for a show, and
also once to Albuquerque. Good times at the gigs and in the towns and on the
road. Albuquerque was in about 1985 with Ante Bellum…Rapid City was 1986 with
Expatriate. Expatriate went to Rapid City again, but not with Dead Silence (or
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accidently saw Megadeth at the Rainbow Music Hall, I think they opened for King
Diamond. Anyhow, my not-old-enough-to-drive-yet crush bought me a gift that
night for taking her: a Peace Sells…Who’s Buying t-shirt. Years later you
wrote, Megadeath Sells…was that a nod to how awesomely cheesy they were? </span></i></b><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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opposite. I didn’t know much about Megadeth, but in my fiery teenage
self-righteousness I took their “Peace Sells....but Who’s Buying” record title
to be a cynical dismissal of working for peace. No idea if that’s what they
actually meant, but it made me mad back then so I wrote a song about, and I
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can’t support this message that I created so many years ago, because I don’t
actually know what Megadeth meant by their album title. I never thought about
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involved with The Pit and Mosh Pit Records? I thought it was cool that you and
Wendy started something down there and had that crossover vibe. I have to
admit, I was scared of that satanic shit when it became more her operation
years later. What did you think about that change? Did you see it coming or was
that more of a natural progression on her part? </span></i></b><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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trying to release our record. We’d played at DJ’s Nightclub a few times or put
on some shows there or something. Wendy was the booking agent there. She
suggested she be our manager and help us put the record out. We didn’t want a
manager, but she and I basically became business partners in order to release
the Expatriate EP and then in order to sell it we decided we’d start an
international underground mail order company, Mosh Pit Records. In order to
promote that we’d create a catalog that was a fanzine, The Pit. </span><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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starting in 1987 when the record came out. Expatriate broke up not too long
after the record was released, but I stuck around till 1990, did seven or eight
issues of the Pit, helped produce some records and a lot of other stuff. It
amounted to graphic design school for me; Mosh Pit was where I started to learn
to typeset, use digital layout programs, and create publications-getting them
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record, Expatriate also released a second 7-inch EP on Heart First records from
Germany. The record was a live recording-six songs from a performance in
January of 1987 at the Longhorn Saloon and sound was done by Jimmy of the Rok
Tots. There were about three people in the audiences at the shows, I believe we
played two nights. We gave it our all and got some good recordings. </span><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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were doing your own “documenting of the scene” project. Was that for school? It
seemed that you had a good eye for photography. How far did you get on the
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project in senior year of high school. I created my own photography class
documenting the Colorado punk and underground music scene. I photographed lots
of bands, shows, and interviewed everyone. To present it, I had a photo-poster
shop enlarge the final photos to huge paper posters, 2x3 feet, and arranged
them all on a wall of butcher paper, which I then decorated with a collection
of flyers torn from various walls and poles. I also spray painted various
graffiti all over the place. The interviews or parts of them were tacked below
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rolled up, would barely fit under a bed. I didn’t keep it too long, but I wish
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another poster of a photo of Gibby from the Butthole Surfers from their Locust
Abortion Technician tour show at Norman’s and gave it the same treatment. I
pasted it to a board and plastered it with flyers and spray paint. I called it
“Butthole Surfers Are God, part II” and got it into a juried photo show in
Hays, Kansas. True story.</span></div>
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Bob Rob Medinahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05818604452391830233noreply@blogger.com5tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1007449741570868085.post-79932756527780089332015-06-17T09:29:00.000-07:002015-06-17T15:17:01.719-07:00Burnt Fase: Jim talks about crossover, skinheads, drugs, and more<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
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<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">During the summer of 84,
after an Idiots Revenge practice/wrestling matching in my parent’s front lawn we
piled into Ken’s metallic gold hatchback and drove down to Christian’s to catch
the D.R.I., C.O.C. and Faction show. It was a typical summer midweek night in
the desolate lower downtown Denver: warm with the bums staggering out of bars
around from the corner outnumbering the punks. The “bum mobile” with
its bright flashing lights combed alleyways collecting the passed out drunkards.
The street sweeper followed while the music raged inside. Between bands we
roamed around outside forcing down cheap cans of lukewarm beer complaining
about how warm it was. <o:p></o:p></i></div>
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night, it wasn’t your typical hardcore or thrash fare. What Denver witnessed
that evening was a shifting of music on a grand scale, perhaps a merging of
genres. There was definitely some metal influence in the music, though more prominent in C.O.C.’s set. Both D.R.I. and C.O.C. at the time were
treading and infusing a metal sound into their song writing essentially evolving
the hardcore sound that would set standards in the coming years. Appropriately
the term “crossover” would be coined for this style on D.R.I.’s third album
three years in the future.<o:p></o:p></i></div>
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<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">At the end of the
night I’m certain several people drove home including myself completely dumbfounded
and in awe about the heaviness and sudden chord progressions we saw on stage. I
had picked up C.O.C.'s-An Eye For An Eye LP before the show and had mixed
feelings. I hated it more so after the show because it didn’t translate to what
I witnessed live. The same could be said about D.R.I. though their Violent Pacification
EP was more listenable. <o:p></o:p></i></div>
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<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Another person who saw
the show that night was Jim Hale. Jim would later front Burnt Fase, a band I
consider Denver’s first real punk-metal group. The five-piece was something
wicked and brought a new element into the scene that wasn’t always welcomed
by others. Their shows were notoriously tense ridden and would often be an
arena for a showdown between the skinheads and Mexicans, meaning bassist David
Lee’s family and friends. <o:p></o:p></i></div>
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<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Jim had pipes and let out ear piercing wails
and screeches while frantically shaking his head to Mark’s bombastic drumming.
If you ever seen a photo of David Lee holding up his bass, he held it like a
weapon until lowering it to blast through songs like an on/off switch. Live,
you wanted to be up front banging your head to the quick assault of the band’s
fury of sound. <o:p></o:p></i></div>
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<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">When Burnt Fase
recorded and released an LP/CD combo it was suspect. Most local bands barely
had enough money to record and at most release a cassette demo or a 7” EP but
certainly not a CD. Even Wax Trax barely started selling CDs stocking only a
handful. To put it into perspective, the price of buying 2-3 LPs was the cost
of a single CD. For many of us a Burnt Fase CD wasn’t plausible. Without a
follow-up tour, the band appeared as fast as it vanished.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></i></div>
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<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Jim and I chatted about
the origins of the band-how it came to be, going to see real metal bands at the
Rainbow and being chased out of Denver by skinheads. Below is Jim’s story. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></i></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">I consider Burnt Fase and Ante Bellum as the first crossover bands in Denver,
what do you think? <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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The scene seemed to have crossed over pretty quickly; a lot
of bands wanted to get harder and maybe a bit more edgy. It went from punk and when
bands like Corrosion of Conformity (C.O.C.) came through, they were hard punk with
a thrash metal edge. It seems like a lot bands wanted to go that direction at
that point. Thrash metal started to take off about this time as well. I would
say it was more of the thrash than mainstream metal that punk was leaning
towards at the time. Metal was still viewed as pussy rock, whereas thrash
really took more of that punk energy into a harder direction. <o:p></o:p></div>
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that propelled directional change in some of the Denver bands? <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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That was the show that did it for me; I think it was the Eye
for an Eye tour. Those guys just ripped so hard-they crossed over to heavier
riffs and played super fast. Maybe it was the drop D tuning, it came in so
heavy. <o:p></o:p></div>
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I was always into Bum Kon; they developed a punk metal edge.
They were influential for what I wanted to do. I was really into the metal
world-into all hard bands with the super fast and hard sound. Then I started hearing
some of the punk stuff. I liked that punk was aggressive and fast. As it got be
84-85, bands like Slayer started coming out. Shane from Happy World and I were hanging
out at his house talking about wanting to be the first Slayer band of Denver. That
conversation is where Burnt Fase came out of-we wanted to be a fast thrash
metal band. When we put the band together it didn't come out as hard as I
wanted it, but it was definitely harder than anything going on in the scene at
that point. Once Shane and I got Larry from Bum Kon to join, we started working
on making the band’s fast and hard sound. Larry had a hardcore and thrash
background and started listening to Slayer and was inspired by them. We all wanted
to see what we could do that was sort of like that. Shane was really into doing
something new. Happy World was his first priority and Burnt Fase was his fun
side project at the time. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">So your idea of a band was to have a metal influence, but maintain
hardcore sensibilities? <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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In the 70's I got turned on AC/DC and Black Sabbath early
on. My first concert was KISS and they blew my fucking mind. I got into the Sex
Pistols and Ramones because when I heard them I thought, "Holy crap!"
The Ramones were super fast but not really aggressive. Maybe I was an angry
person and gravitated more towards the harder stuff. The first Iron Maiden
records had sort of a punk influence. <o:p></o:p></div>
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My friend Dave sent Tristan over to my house so he could take
me to a punk show. He showed up at my house with a double green Mohawk and told
me "I heard you're kind of crazy so I'm going to take you to punk shows."
He took me to shows and turned me on to the whole hardcore scene in late 83-early
84. Then I got in trouble and did some time in Gilliam Youth Center, nothing
but good times... <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Trouble? <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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Yeah, trouble with a Capital T. I was an idiot with a bad
attitude towards any type of authority. When I got out, I basically went back
into the scene and attended every show I could see. Butthole Surfers at the
Packinghouse-one of the best shows I had ever seen. CH 3/Samhain-even though
that was kind of a nightmare show, it had all the aspects of a scene I was into.
I was very aggressive and I needed an outlet. When I think back to bands like the
Samhain, they were hard, had a doom sound and didn’t give a shit about anything
or anyone. That was a great combo for any young kid to look up to. Trouble just
was part of the allure to the scene. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Back to you and Shane listening to Slayer. <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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Shane and I were hanging out with Gigi and I was into thrash
metal, had long hair, went to shows, and we were talking and I said we should
really do a hard band. My favorite band at the time was Bum Kon. Basically when
I first saw those guys, I thought, if I could be in any band I would want to be
in that band. Fortunately for me I became friends with Larry, Mark, Erik, and
Bob so when we started working on building Burnt Fase it was Shane and I
talking then David Lee and I talking. Shane, David Lee and I would hang out and
smoke a lot of weed.... so we decided, let's put this thing together. We
started calling people. I think David Lee just got done playing with Children
of Denial. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Shane was already on board, I
asked Larry and Mark if they wanted to do something a bit different and they
were stoked to give it a try. We all got together down at the Yogurt Factory;
it came out sounding good, like country-metal-punk. It was a weird sound.<o:p></o:p></div>
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Our first stuff was super fast short songs. Our first show
in Fort Collins, we all piled into Dave Lee’s molester van, drove up and ripped
that place a part. That when we all knew we had something different and good.
Shane had some conflicts and missed practices. He eventually dropped out because
he was busy with Happy World. We recruited John from Malibu Kens to replace
Shane. It wasn't truly metal-metal; I didn't want a hair metal band. I wanted
the vocals to sound super screamy and the music fast and hard. Punk had almost
been played out; the scene needed bands with a little bit more aggression,
which of course correlated to all the violence that was going on. We fit almost
perfectly in that because unfortunately every time we played there’d be a freakin'
riot, people fighting. We had a lot of people that came: we had David Lee's
crew and those guys didn't get along with the skinheads. There was always
tension and about our third song, Fase Death, and I'm not kidding-every time
we'd play it there was a fight. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Did you guys ever talk about that at practice or after a show,
"Shit, man, we're like a soundtrack for people to clobber the crap out of
each other"?<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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(Laughter) We'd have practices and say we're going to go
have fun at our next show knowing that it was probably going to turn into a
riot. We would look at each other during songs and we could just feel it
happening. The show at the Auraria Campus was a bad scene. The skins started
beating-up on Mark's girlfriend Amy. I still had words coming out of my mouth
when I saw Mark running past me. He was playing a skinhead like his snare drum,
hitting him so fast… We're in the pit fighting and the next thing you know
Leroy (David Lee’s brother) and David Lee are in there. At that point, the skins
just straight up hated us didn't want us to have a good show, it was a like
football practice. They would stand at the back of the crowd and line-up then
would run up and hit people trying to enjoy the show. <o:p></o:p></div>
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That is one of the reasons why I left Denver, the skinhead
thing just got so thick. I was friends with the core guys like Jeff, Shawn, and
Tommy. Jeff was always a cool guy with me, it was funny because I had long hair
and maybe it was because I always had weed with me. The new group that came in,
like the Ashleys and Maxwells... Those guys just wanted to fight, disturb the
scene, and play the race card. We didn't play that-we were just out there to
have fun. I was a skater guy that just wanted to skate and go thrash in my band
and that was it. <o:p></o:p></div>
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I didn't have a problem until the Ashley types arrived. I
left Denver because four skins showed up on my doorstep one morning wanting to
kick my ass because I pulled a knife or cut Ashley at the C.O.C show because he
was beating-up some 4-foot kid and he’s like 9-feet. Why was he beating this kid
up? So they threatened my life and I thought I needed to get the fuck out of
there. I was living in Breckenridge snowboarding...so I moved to San Francisco.
That whole skin thing was real, it happened. It was a part of the scene that
was uncomfortable; it was actually the most punk part of the scene. Punk was definitely
a rebellion; if you didn’t have this element of danger in there it would be a
false rebellion. This fit my attitude perfect I didn’t give a shit about
anything but Skating and Burnt Fase and maybe weed and LSD-it made it a little
more edgy and likeable that anything could happen. Jeff actually was good guy
and did a lot more to stop that. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">David Lee's crew?<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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He had a brother Leroy and he would bring in all his buddies,
which people thought they were a Mexican gang. They weren't. They would show up
and it wasn't their fault, they wanted to party and would get into the pit and
have fun, then the skinheads would see them and they would become a target. The
presence of those two factions ruined a lot of the shows. You had the Mexican
mafia going on and you had the skinhead mafia going on and anytime they were in
the same place at the same time it was never a good thing. Blood was often spilled.
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Funny, both groups knew what to expect and they both showed up. <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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(Laughter). Yeah, it was almost like an invitation when they
saw the flier. However we weren’t always the main people that got it going. The
perfect one was the C.O.C. show at the Aztlan. We showed up, and while we were
playing fights broke out, the skins beat-up the B'LAST! van, people were
getting maced...That is kind of the allure of punk, you didn't know what was
going to happen. It sucked to see a good show turn to a disaster within a
couple seconds, but it happen almost every time we played. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Expanding the punk sound? <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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I think what happened in Denver, specifically was that the
scene got flooded with a lot of bands with not a lot of distinction. There were
the main bands like The Fluid, Brother Rat, Bum Kon, Happy World, and Rok Tots.
They were the staples. Other bands came in underneath that and all sounded the
same. When you come out with something different, which really wasn't
different, it was just thrash metal with a little punk edge. I think you start
to sway people. Later you have Expatriate with that kind of sound. It brought
the punk thing deeper into the metal scene. <o:p></o:p></div>
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In 86 we went to Avalanche Studios to record a quick 6-song
demo. We went in with Shane and it was the nicest studio we could find. David Lee
was funding it so we went with the best we could find. It didn't capture the
first set we had. In 87 we went into Colorado Sound and spent a week there and
worked at nights, paid cash to get a better deal. We spent about $17,000
recoding a CD. Which is more than anyone ever spent on a record in the local
scene I knew of. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Shit! 17 grand?<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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We came out with a CD, we thought we were going to blow-up...it
was because David Lee had a lot of money and didn't mind throwing it down. It
was his baby, if he wanted to blow it out; he had the means to do it. We were
one of the first bands in Denver to put out a CD; there were literally 2-3
other CDs at Wax Trax. We basically had a good set and the first couple of
shows we played; we thought we needed to record this because we had the money. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Ha, no. We pretty much broke-up after putting out the CD.
When the CD came out, we had a launch party and then we had a blowout with too
many personalities in the band...then drugs got involved. At one point David
Lee pulled the trigger and said he was done. We all went with it. Mark and I
weren't getting along that well since we were living together, we had a little
blowout and that's when they started Soak and played a show with the other
singer and later Mark and Larry said, "Hey, why don't you join us"
That was the band for me. Burnt Fase was badass and fun for sure. Soak was the
next level of Bum Kon and that band just blew doors open. It was the best band I
even been in. <o:p></o:p></div>
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It was like Bum Kon version 2.0, the core of it. This is no
slide on Bob; Bob was the baddest-ass guy ever. Bum Kon was my favorite band in
the entire world. For me, getting an opportunity to play with those guys, I was
all over it. <o:p></o:p></div>
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It was the top of the line for what I liked. You can say
that Mike Serviolo is one of the best guitarist I'd ever seen, but for what I
like, it was these guys. Mark is one of the most underrated drummers out of
anybody-he could just pound on the drums like John Bonham. And Larry could play
as fast, as punk, as rock, as thrashy metal as you wanted. And you have Erik on
bass who played it like a guitar, One time at the Grove he played so hard his
fingers where bleeding all over the bass, the most punk rock thing I’ve seen. I
was hanging upside down from the rafters screaming my brains out and see a pool
of blood forming on the ground below…Erik , so badass. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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Mark to John Bonham and Davey to Keith Moon.<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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That sounds about right. Those are two guys that never got their
due justice. Mark tried, he lived it, but he had to pull out because of health
problems, because of his back, knees, he’s a thick dude. He had joint issues.
etc. He still plays and makes his own tapes. He’s the best I ever played with.
Great guy. He was so good I would tell him he should push his kit to the front
of the stage and we'd play behind him. People were coming to watch him because
he would hit his kit so hard and loud, just amazing to watch. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">After Burnt Fase it seems like David Lee dropped out. <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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It's out there and most people know the story. It was the
mid-80's and a lot of people in the scene smoked a little pot, snorted some
coke. David got popped for selling so he was shipped off to Canyon City for a
number of years. Mark was involved in that. Soak moved to San Francisco and Mark
couldn't travel so we got Jason Smith for the recording. It was what it was. It
just happened back in the day, there was a lot of shit going on and sometimes
people got popped and that was the game we all played back then. Fast and hard.
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">It seems like you played extreme music to go with the extreme sports
that you were into.<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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When I was in Burnt Fase, I was trying to be a professional snowboarder.
I was sponsored. For me it was always an extension of who I am. I like to do
stuff that is on the edge, individual sports...It went great with the music I
was doing, a soundtrack to my life.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Soak
sold a couple of songs to commercials, snowboard movies, it was a great avenue
to try and push that genre of music into that stuff. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Burnt Fase stories? <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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One of the best things I liked about Denver was that we had
house parties and the second time we played was in a basement and this is when
I knew I was in a fricken' crazy band. One of David Lee's guys gets into a
fight out there and we're all in a 10' x 10' room and I'm singing out to a
crowd in another room and the basement starts turning into a whirlwind pit and
somehow somebody gets shanked. Some people pick the guy up and there's this pit
still going on and someone is trying to patch him up against the wall. Someone
comes down the stairs and switches off all the lights and all you can see are
the lights form the amps. It was dark; people are screaming...it was one of the
more exciting shows we ever played. That’s one of the cool punk things about Denver
was playing basements, backyards, Yogurt Factory...It was always amazing how
you can put a show on just about anywhere. <o:p></o:p></div>
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One of the best shows we ever played was in the basement of
Jerry's Records. Ecstasy started to hit pretty hard in Denver. We get down
there and David Lee didn't show so Larry played bass with Mark on drums and Shane
guitar. It was an ad hoc sort of deal; we played on equipment that wasn't ours.
I had a 4’ mic cable and a mic that looked like a spike. It was sharp and I cut
my mouth while I was singing. We played with this crazy line-up to over 50
people in that hot smelly basement. A lot of people said that was one of the
best shows we ever played because we sounded good and a lot of people were on
drugs. Yep those where the days of haze and fun- nothing will ever be like that
again.</div>
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Bob Rob Medinahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05818604452391830233noreply@blogger.com5tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1007449741570868085.post-12406247515635796522015-06-10T22:22:00.001-07:002015-06-11T04:02:36.906-07:00Big Chad talks about punk, skinheads, and other thoughts. <div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
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Skinheads have always been a touchy issue within the Denver
Punk Scene. They were often renowned as the bad seed. With this project, former
skins have been invited to participate and express their opinions and involvement
in the scene. Most of them started out as punk rockers and later discovered Oi!
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I don’t condone any of the violence that happened at the
shows, skinhead or otherwise. Punk and hardcore is a form of expression that
can easily be swayed towards pushing, shoving, leading to altercation. With
that said I was friendly with everyone in the scene including the older skins.
I hung out with them and still consider them friends. Much of the violence at
shows during the mid-80s was simply teenage angst and alpha male power
struggles. We were all outsiders so we had to project a hard image to keep the
general populace from fucking with us. Punks and skins adopted a pack mentality
to ward off jocks, hicks and the like. Many times when we collided with outsiders
is when things got heavy and fists were thrown. That’s the way it was for a lot
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The skins were an intimidating element
to the scene and later sensationalized and simultaneously demonized by mass
media. One on one, they were approachable. As a group it was a different story
for non-punks, other punks that weren’t part of their extended group and
newbies at shows. The dichotomy was that the group was somewhat exclusive, but
yet they were friendly with others within the scene at large. <o:p></o:p></div>
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I went to school with the early
core of the Denver Skins and therefore our friendship was more on an intimate
level. We’d hang out after school, listen to music, and watch them tear it up
on backyard skateboard ramps in suburban Aurora. I helped with a couple of
shows they promoted, drank beers together, and got tattooed. Other friends
would ask why I hung out with the skins, it was simple, “We’re friends.” I
didn’t question their actions and they didn’t question mine. We seldom talked
politics, beliefs, religion, and didn’t need to. Back in the day, people bonded
over similar interests and co-exited that way. <o:p></o:p></div>
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As people have grown older, many of
the old scenesters have become more forthcoming about their politics. I don’t
get into that much. Punk to me has always been about the music, dropping out of
the system and making life on your own terms while being respectful of others.
Outside of defending yourself, I don’t support violence and make a conscious
effort these days to avoid confrontations. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Big Chad is a friend, an original
Denver skinhead and short-lived front man of Immoral Attitude. My fondest
memory of Chad is sitting in his dark basement apartment across the street form
Wax Trax drinking beer in the early afternoon listing to Oi! albums. He and the
other guys in Immoral Attitude helped develop my love for English street punk. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Big Chad discusses being a punk
rocker, defines what a real skinhead is, his rational for disliking rap music,
sheep that can’t cook, drugs, and his time singing in a band.<o:p></o:p><br />
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At a certain point of time there was. I don't know if they
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Uberfall had a wider range of friends at the beginning...Flye and Big John were
the social magnets of the band so they always got everyone out to their gigs. <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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Do you want to hear a story about Big John? <o:p></o:p></div>
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The first time Iron Cross toured, they ended up staying at
my house for a week. It was the shitty apartment across from Wax Trax. We had a
great time. They slept on my floor and we'd eat at Taco Bueno and drink beer. I
took them out to Cherry Creek for a swim... Anyhow, they played a pick-up show
with Tex and the Horseheads at Christian’s. They had time to kill before
heading out to California to play with Chron Gen and then going down to Mexico
to play a gig at Iguanas in Tijuana. I don't think they ever made that show. On
the way back they stayed with me again. <o:p></o:p></div>
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A guy with Iron Cross at that time was this cat named James
and he had played in the skinhead band, Combat 84. Sab knew and brought him on
tour because they were friend back in England where he is originally from. A
couple of years later James comes back through Denver and now he's playing
guitar with the fucking UK Subs. It was for their 10th anniversary tour. Do you
remember that show? <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Yeah, my band opened up for them at Norman’s. <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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The UK Subs drummer, Rab Fae Beith, was a force of nature-he
was something else. We went to the show, the Subs played and knowing James we
met them at their hotel after the show. Do you remember a guy named Darren? He
was the big time Capitol Hill cocaine dealer. The funny thing was, he's Jewish
and liked to hang out with skinheads, before the racist thing was in full bloom.
We ended up at a party with Darren and he's got a piece of cocaine that looks
like a bar of soap in a plastic bag in his pocket. We are there with the Subs
so we raised-up some money. He starts to shave it off with a knife. Everyone's
fucked up. The band had a roadie named Bubbles, a fat skinhead guy and gets in
an argument with Paxton so everything is going wrong from the start. I don't
know how it happened but we ended up leaving and headed over to Lisa's house. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Lisa is kind of the punk princess and Big John was there.
Another friend of mine who was out of his head on cocaine was moving around a
lot. He bounced into people and they would just push him-he became a human
pinball. He bumps into Lisa and spills her drink. She gets pissed off and
throws what’s left in her glass at the UK Subs including Rab. Rab is Scottish and
built like a fucking fire hydrant, he's just solid, bleach blonde hair, punk
rock style with a braided tail in the back tied with a red ribbon. He looked
like a fucking pirate. Lisa takes the rest of what's in her glass and throws it
on him and starts denouncing me saying what an asshole I am because I brought
them there. Rab has a bottle of Sunny Delight filled with half juice and half
vodka and slings a big gulp of that into her face. Then Big John comes up and
gets all bad and starts talking shit and telling him, "Fuck you" Rab
headbutts him and he goes to the ground. It was definitely a concussion. The
first thing Rab says is, "In Scottland, that is what we call a
headbutt." Everybody starts saying, "Why the fuck did you do
that?" He replied, "He was fucking saying shit about me mate."
Meaning me. As we're leaving, this is a great punk rock moment, who's coming
in? Stiv Bators from Lords of the New Church and he is with Charlie from the
Subs. That was fucking cool, both bands played the same night at different
clubs. That was one of my great punk moments: hanging out with the UK Subs and
doing a bunch of drugs with them, getting into a fight and they stood up for
me, plus meeting Stiv Bators on the way out. I finally got to sleep a couple of
days later. <o:p></o:p></div>
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All the girls liked bad boys in the 80's, meaning skinheads
and punks but when you talked with them they worshipped Ronald Reagan. I
remember being at one of those nasty gross basement apartments where Jill and
Jeff lived playing board games and drinking beers and there would be these new
wave chicks and they're all in to Reagan. Goddamn, I wanted to throw them out.
I was telling them, “How can you be wearing your little fairy boots and you're
into the punk rock stuff, and yet vote the same way as your parents?” <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">People from the burbs were like that.<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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I want to answer a riddle for you, a riddle you’ve had for
years. Now, I had completely forgot about that Black Flag show where Nig Heist
got arrested. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Yeah, that was the show you got up on stage and talked into the mic....<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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And the question that seems to be lingering in your mind was
why did I say, "Why did God invent women?" <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Because she can't cook? <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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It isn't<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>"she" it was "sheep"<o:p></o:p></div>
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A fucking animal covered in wool. S-H-E-E-P (Laugher) It's funnier
now isn't it? <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">I have that show on tape, it was broadcasted on the Wild West Show on
KGNU. The funny thing before they aired it, the station played the disclaimer
stating something to the effect of, "the following material might be
offensive to you or a family member so please tune out for the next few
minutes." And you know how that show went with them getting arrested in
Denver for indecent exposure and lewd behavior. It was a flurry of obscenities
for 20 or so minutes. Even the commentary on the radio was hilarious. Someone
called the station wanting to dedicate the song, Tight Little Pussy to a girl
and Richard the DJ gets on the air and announced it. <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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As a young man, I was connoisseur of dirty jokes...I'm
embarrassed now (Laughter) you can print that too. I was a wild and profane man
when I was young. <o:p></o:p></div>
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It was the early 80's. We were seeing things on cable TV at
a friend’s house. I saw videos by The Specials and Pretenders. I had a
subscription to the rock magazine, Crawdaddy! and they had full page ads for
Sex Pistols and stuff like that. When they mentioned punk rock, everyone would
be freaked out by it. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Littleton High. In high school, the rich kids were complete
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They were scumbags, thieves, cowards...travel in packs. I
didn't want to wear the same clothes as them, the same shoes; I didn't want to
listen to Foreigner or Styx. I wanted to do something different. I will tell
you something, there's a flier you posted on your article about the Frantix,
the first show I ever went to was Rok Tots, Dogmeat and the Frantix at the
Boulder Free School. I remember dressing like a new wave kid and going to the
show with a girl I knew. She worked at Burger King in Southglenn Mall with Mark
from Bum Kon. Mark was clued-up and knew about the hardcore stuff that was
coming out and we didn't. We found out about the show from him. So we drove up
there. I walked in and I see this guy leaning on a bar and he's got on Levis,
black suede cowboy boots with chains and bandanas tied around them, a mohair
sweater, a bandana around his neck and spiky hair. He looked so fucking
awesome. He looked rock and roll epitomized. It was Garrett Shavlik. I wanted
to look like that. Inside the show it is a free for all...chicks walking around
screaming for the fuck of it because there's no rules. There were people slam
dancing and I got on my Hawaiian shirt and sneakers I spray-painted pink to
look new wave, rude and offensive. I think I might have had a skinny tie and
buttons on my shirt and those cheesy wraparound punk rock shades. I'm with my
friend Holly and I told her, "I'm feeling it, I want to get out there and
slam dance" Both of us had never seen it before. So I took off those
stupid new wave sunglasses and snapped them, threw them away and jumped in the
fucking pit and got bashed around and never looked back. <o:p></o:p></div>
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And going back to high school, the Pee Chee folders with the
drawings of the guys running, playing basketball...we'd took a pen and made
their hair spiky and wrote stuff like Dogmeat, Frantix on their shirts instead
of doing school work.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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There were things about skinheads in the punk rock magazines
that were coming out. It wasn't clear what it was; it just seemed to be a cut
above punk rock. It came across as something like a gang, something a little
more elevated, it seemed like skins didn't take any shit. I had no fucking clue
that it existed in England, the history of it...I just knew that these guys
seemed a little braver. The biggest thing to remember is how much fucking shit
you'd get from everybody. Do you remember that Bob?<o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Of course, if you're a punk rocker, you invited it. We all got a ton of
shit from people for looking the way we did. <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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For nothing, everybody just wanted to kill you. My
impression was skinheads were people that stood up for themselves. I really
liked the UK sound and still do more than anything else. I loved the Exploited,
GBH...At a Big Apple Records shop in Cinderella City I discovered <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Oi! The Album</i> in the import bin. The
bands on that record were the Cockney Rejects, Exploited, Angelic Upstarts,
4-Skins...I was, "Wow" this was the sound I really loved. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Here's the biggest part, I was working, I've always worked,
always had a job, and I always valued the people that I worked with. I felt the
look of skinheads made it more palatable to get a job. You shave your head, you
got your Doc Martins on, some jeans, a Fred Perry...you know you're not going
to get hired if you go in with a mohawk and black leather jacket full of studs.
Do you know what I mean? It is completely unfair, but that was the reality of
it. I needed to work, to take care of my family and that’s it. It's like a
fucking glove. Essentially Oi! is the same kind of music as punk, but maybe a
little sower and both sing about a lot of the same things. It made sense to me.
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">I attribute you and the guys from Immoral Attitude for turning me on to
Oi!. I've been to several of Oi! shows in the states and in Europe. When I saw
the Business in Spain or Peter and the Test Tube Babies in London, it was a
totally different vibe than back home. Everyone was singing along, buying each
other beers and having a good time. There wasn't any attitude, nobody was
sizing me up because I didn't have the look...I was up front with them singing
along and drinking ales. <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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It's amazing isn't it? Here we are, dissatisfied with what
goes on, but we're still loyal to our county, football club...and we work. We
have girlfriends, families, and jobs. Tell me what you felt at those shows? <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Everybody was cool, people were stoked to see the bands...There were
skinheads of all shapes, sizes, skin color, whatever. There was definitely a
uniform and people that showed up were in into it and not because it was fashionable.
I hung out with a couple of skins at the Business show and went down to a bar
with them before the show. About the only problem was I didn't speak
Catalonian, but got by with some Spanish. They turned me on to a couple of Oi!
bands from Spain and I went to the record store next day and bought what they
suggested. It reminded me of the old days when you’d meet another punk or skin
and become instant friends, It’s not like anymore, at least when I go to shows
in California. And the racism thing, sure it was nationalistic, but everyone
seemed to respect and not bother anyone else. <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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There was a time when a lot of people flirted with racism in
the 80's. Unfortunately in the early 90's “skinhead” got full-on coopted and it
just disintegrated into racist nonsense. To be totally honest, I wasn't immune
to that. But anybody with any fucking brains realizes that isn’t the way to go.
I flirted with Nazi monkey business but I never got into it and I never hurt
anybody. I never understood why people would want to go to a punk gig and wreck
it. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">It seems like that came later with newer skins. I never felt like the
older ones intentionally ruined shows; sure there were skirmishes but nothing
like the violence later on. <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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I think a lot of the original hardcore punks, the guys from
East High, I feel like they failed us in camaraderie. We would go and see their
shows, and write their names on our t-shirts, and we all did that. But I feel
like they had this territorial imperative because they lived in the city and
went to East and the rest of us were from the burbs. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Absolutely. Completely. I remember going to a gig in
someone's backyard and I want to say it was Child Abuse or Peace Core; one of
those bands was playing. There were 100 antagonistic jocks there probably
wanting to throw the band in the pool-it was the kind of house that had a pool.
Some rich Cherry Creek girl threw a punk rock party when her parents were out
of town. And the band played and all the local boys showed up wantingto beat up
the punks. The verbal that was going on was that skinheads were here and that
wasn't going to happen tonight. <o:p></o:p><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Did you think the skins were the Guardian Angels of the party that
night? <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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You know, in a really stupid way I wanted skins to be. It
never happened. I guess I thought it would be like motorcycle club, just like a
brotherhood of likeminded individuals, we go to the shows and there's people
fucking with the punk rockers and we could help, but it ended up the other way
around (Laughter). It was squabbles, people just talking shit, "I'm going
to get this guy, I'm going to get that guy" A show would be a place to
fight. I hated that; it's a really bad memory. I remember doing that. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Do you remember Craig form Canada; he dated Cassy for
Psychotic Reaction? I remember he was talking a bunch of shit, saying he was
going to smash skinheads. At DOA, this was a Jill show and that's why she used
to hate me. I started spitting on him and calling him out, trying to fight him
on a dance floor. And two years later, we're friends and I felt badly about
that.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">You know, writing about skins for this project has been sort of a taboo
subject. It almost seems like people are waiting for me to bring it up. The
time I did, I got flack from both directions. The overall consensus of what I
wrote was that it came from a neutral perspective of stating the facts. If you
read it there are no judgments. You even busted my balls a little bit about it.
I’m almost certain I will be criticized for this post as well. Everyone has
their story and it is as valid as anyone else’s. The Denver Skins were the
elephant in the room and tends to be stuck in the collective consciousness of
the Denver scene. For some people it is legit, like Hale from Burnt Fase, he
was pretty much chased out of Denver by the new skins. <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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Skinheads are having a revival returning to its proper roots
and meaning; there are so many bands that are playing right now. There are a
lot old skinheads in San Francisco and everyone's happy. At the Cock Sparrer
last year there were no fights, sold the place out of beer, broke the toilet,
no aggravation... I'm 51 and I'm done fighting, I don't know how people settle
their scores anymore...everyone has guns now and have for the last 20 years.
When's the last time you saw a proper fistfight? If you're ever going to see
it, it'll be 2 proper skinheads doing it and when they're done, they're going
to have a drink. The gang mentality took over everything. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Some people say that rap music brought in a lot of that. <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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I'll go on record, I hate rap, fucking hate it. A lot of it
is the lowest common denominator. I hate the materialist aspect, the gang
aspect, and misogynistic treatment of women in it. It's like watching the Home
Shopping Network. You listen to Cock Sparrer: “I been working all day for me
mate on the site, Running around like a blue arsed fly, I been working, And I
been working all day for me mate" Then you listen to rap, "I wear cologne, I rock the microphone..." ahhh fucking hell. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Totally different worlds, one is fantasy and one is reality. <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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Exactly. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">You know Chad, I can see why people like the escapism. People struggle
coping in the real world so they create an alternate reality in their minds and
emulate their heroes from popular culture. A lot of kids get sucked into this pseudo
reality that worships consumer and materialism. The worst part is the cheeping
and the devaluing of life. I don't get it. I'm fine with rap or any music if it
has meaning rooted in not bringing down people; stuff like referring to females
as bitches and capping someone's ass. I don't get it; it's like watching
yourself jack-off in a mirror. <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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Yeah, music should be played with instruments! It's all
commercial shit. Remember when you bough a new hat and didn't take the tags off
on it? (Laughter) Preposterous materialism. Being a skinhead, you realize this
is who you are, this is what you have, and you work with it. You know you're
not going to be the CEO of Google; you work on a building site. Like when you saw
the Business in Spain, you're not listening to Jay-Z telling us how much Cristal
Champagne he drinks, you’re listening to Micky Fitz singing about the National
Insurance Blacklist. Do what you can with what you have and find joy, pleasure,
and pride in it. That’s where it comes from, pride in your class, and pride in
your background. People don't get it, you're not going to be Warren Buffet,
sorry.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><i>Best fake sticker ever made. According to the band, it was a poster. <br />Courtesy of the Tom headbanger collection at the Denver Public Library.</i> </td></tr>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Immoral Attitude?<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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Do you remember Chris having a Volkswagen Bug? One night
we’re heading down to play a show and we stopped to get gas. Chris goes inside
to pay and comes running out. There were these rednecks that wanted to fucking
kill us. We had to get the fuck out of there. Chris pushed that Bug for
everything that it was worth; he was going through red lights, stop signs…
Every time we stopped they started getting out of the truck. It was four of
them and two of us. They chased us for 30 fucking miles, all the way from
Chris' house, out by where you lived in Aurora all through Denver and down to
Christian’s. We pulled into the parking lot with the rednecks still behind us.
They took a look at all of us and everyone man'd up and that pick-up truck just
backed out and left. (Laughter)<o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">It seemed like Immoral Attitude was a revolving door of members? <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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It was really Chris and Dave's band. They didn’t have much
going on until I joined. With Tommy, they didn't write to many songs. I wrote
song and we were good. We tried. I wish it could have gone further. Part of why
I didn't play with them anymore was I got a little mouthy on the economics of
the band. They came from money and I didn't, so I told them to have their
mother rent us an RV and we can do a tour and they took exception to that. They
went, "Tell your mom to rent us an RV" Well, my mom didn’t have money;
we were poor. Honestly, as far as a band that ever played that was the best
line-up. I have a tape in my storage of songs we recorded and it’s still good
to this day. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Chad changes the
subject <o:p></o:p></i></div>
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I understand why you want to put this Denver Skins thing in
your book; it was certainly a part of the scene and mostly for bad. I can only
speak for myself. I'm not quite sure how you deal with that. This sounds so
arrogant, I was basically there at the formation of the Denver Skins: Sammy,
Holly, Gary and his girlfriend...it was four friends and years later it turned
into a nightmare. I guess I'm wondering how do the skins fit into your project?
<o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">I think to paint an honest history of the scene you have to be
inclusive. I have interviewed: fans, bands, promoters, DJs… just about someone
from every element connected with the scene. I included all the genres: punk,
hardcore, industrial, new wave, experimental, because they were all infused.
I'm interested in people's stories and contributions good or bad. I don't think
it would be right to purposefully exclude any group since everyone contributed.
Though out this project I have been keeping in mind that we were all kids when
we were involved in this. I always assume that when people talk with me, they
are telling me what was in their heads 30 years ago.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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I respect that. It was predominant. Denver was huge with the
skin thing for a while.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">I think violence at shows is a relevant topic. It changed people's
attitudes about going to shows; it changed the dynamics of the scene. I would
even argue that problems at shows created factions and micro scenes. Granted
bands were changing as members learned their instruments better and wanted to
play something other that fast songs. When bands like Brother Rat and the Fluid
formed, a lot of the hardcore kids didn't go to those shows. <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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In the beginning White Trash, Dogmeat, and Frantix-that
stuff was great. Then it turned in to the Fluid, 57 Lesbian and thought that was
boring even though they were great at what they did. You know, there were a lot
of lost souls in the punk scene and you know what they did? They found the most
negative element and followed that. <o:p></o:p></div>
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What needs to be mentioned was that we didn't have guidance.
If we were coming up now we would have guns. Everyone was trying to take their
shit out on their own, for good or bad. Some people got into heroin and some
people got into Nazi monkey business. We were fucking kids.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Yeah, with perspective and age, it's like, "Whoa" I know
several punks and skins who changed completely and do stuff like to church, as
if to repent for choices they made in the past or basically to be a better
person. I support that. There are a lot of things out there to keep people
down. I think once you stop living off your parents and have kids, buy a house,
and take ownership of your actions it’s a totally different story.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Now you have perspective and appreciation for
things. I did post on how it was in vogue for punkers to complain about their
parents, you know, the default punk rock rebellion button. Fast forward 30
years and a lot of old punks have kids and everything has come full circle. Final
thoughts? <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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Being a skinhead was really an influential part of my life,
I still consider myself a skinhead to this day. Like I said, real skinheads are
about pride, traditions, being a better person and not the negative stuff that
happened.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri;">My friend Jimmy
and I would obsessively spend our Saturday nights together and going to shows at Kennedy’s or the
Packinghouse, but more often than not, we sat in my bedroom with an improvised
metal hanger antenna duct taped on the top my ghettoblaster tuning in the Wild
West Show on Boulder’s KGNU 88.5 FM. We’d stack up on the cheapest cassette
tapes from the aisles of Skaggs drugstore looking to swipe new music DJs
Richard and The Wolverine (Doreen) spun. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri;">If we didn’t pass-out
after three hours of taping, then we’d stick it out for Little Fyodor’s show,
Under the Floorboards. Jimmy and I were convinced Little Fyodor went to the
edges of the earth searching for the most absurd sounds, the type of stuff not
suitable for casual listening. His collection of songs weren’t going to win you
many new friendships. Through his show, we learned early on the unlimited
possibilities to music and sound. By the time one of my professors in college
turned me on to John Cage’s 4’33”, though I appreciated the concept, the idea
didn’t seemed far fetched or radical compared with what I heard on the radio
and going to shows at the Art Department and other spaces in lower downtown
Denver. In short, Little Fyodor’s radio show should assume partial blame for
corrupting my musical sensibilities. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri;">I recall reading
an issue of Der Moderate Times (DMT) and coming across a Walls of Genius
article. The photo of the band was off-putting, they looked like a Scottish
troupe dressed in the most obnoxious threads even the Salvation Army was
embarrassed to sell. I read the piece only to find out Little Fyodor was a
member. I now had a face to put with the guy that spun strange late-night
music. One concept I walked away with from the article was the part of putting
a ping-pong ball in a Mason jar and recording it. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri;">Along with Walls
of Genius-Architects Office was another outfit that experimented with sound and
often formed a collective with other players for live performances…including
the Walls of Genius guys. Additionally WoG was a label of self-released
cassettes with hand-made covers, fliers, as well as creating offshoots of their
own groups sometimes using pseudonyms. Honestly, looking at the band’s catalog,
scrapbook, liner notes, aesthetics, and the completionist/obsessiveness of the
entire mission makes a case for when intelligent people run amuck with
uncensored ideas, concepts, and an infinite amount of time. The documentation
can be found on: </span><a href="http://www.haltapes.com/walls-of-genius.html"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri;">http://www.haltapes.com/walls-of-genius.html</span></a><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri;"> The disclaimer states: The Walls Of
Genius Comprehensive Online Archive site has been conceived, constructed,
guided, goaded, shepherded, edited, and created with love and devotion by Hal
McGee... with the generous cooperation and contributions of Evan Cantor, Little
Fyodor, Ed Fowler, Don Campau, and numerous others who have loved, hated,
derided, admired, and thrown objects at Walls Of Genius. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri;">When I recently asked
Richard from the Wild West Show what his thoughts were on Little Fyodor’s show,
he politely proclaimed: “Never have I met anyone with such a sustained,
uncompromising and single-minded focus and devotion (obsession?) to creating
musical mayhem. Little Fyodor and The Walls of Genius will always leave me
baffled and very frightened.”<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri;">My conversation
with Little Fyodor.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">Little Fyodor-Joy to the world. Image courtesy of Little Fyodor.<br />Brush and ink drawing by Bob Rob (Medina).</span></i></td></tr>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Walls of Genius versus your solo career? <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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Walls of Genius existed from about 1983-86; I was more solo
in the 80's than I was in that band when I think to calculate it, though it
surprises me to realize that. Walls of Genius was right smack in the 80's when I
started to get involved with underground music as an actual participant. Little
Fyodor was more theoretical at that time. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">What is exactly Little Fyodor?<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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It's an expression of my perspective that included a lot of alienation,
social awkwardness, not fitting in, taking a dark skewed view while trying to have
fun with it. It's the creativity that largely grew out of being influenced
first and foremost by an experience of listening to the Ramones-Leave Home album
while very stoned. Before that, I was a little unsure of what I thought about
punk. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">How did you come across punk?<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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My very first experience of what I think of as punk was
probably a news report I saw right after I graduated high school in 1976. The
report depicted the early London Punk scene. It was like, "Look at this,
what a bunch of freaks, what the fuck!" and that was how they presented
it. They played up the pogoing, they showed someone pogoing on top of somebody
else as if it was this demented violent thing. I was wondering if this show
created hardcore in America. I have a friend in London when the first wave of
punk hit in the mid-70's and he didn't think it was anything like he
experienced when he came to the U.S. He was one of the latter day members of
the Dancing Assholes and later the electronic post-punk group, Doll Parts. I
wondered if the news program planted seeds to make punk look more sick and
fucked-up than it was. That was my first exposure to punk and I’m not sure
where it went after that except I remember the first person I remember actually
say they liked punk was also somebody who ended up introducing me to a lot of
experimental music. It was all a part of the same spectrum to him. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Who was that? <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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Will McLeod, a friend in college.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>In the fraternity I joined, believe it or
not!<o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">You were in a frat? How? Why? I guess, I’m curious about your hazing
experiences and I can’t quite imagine you doing beer bongs. <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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(Laughter) Frats were so numerous at University of Virginia
that there were all kinds, if that makes sense to you. Mine was by far the most
casual. It was known around campus as the hippie frat, though I met several
people there who were into punk and a few who were into weird or intense
experimental stuff, so it was only hippie if that’s anyone not so mainstreamish
or prep or who doesn’t take the frat thing so seriously. The “hazing” was
limited to a couple of pranks where we were tricked into thinking something
fucked-up was going to happen to you and it didn’t (instead you were presented
with a beer and a joint!).<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It was a
little sadistic to have fun watching the subsequent classes go through it, I’ll
admit, but you knew it was going to end up fine, so it really wasn’t such a big
deal.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Ha-ha, don’t remember any beer
bongs, but we did party a bunch, what can I say.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I’ll only add that being introverted and shy
actually gave me my own, if maybe ironic, motivation to join a frat, as it was
like having 30 instant friends.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>Naturally, it didn’t always work out quite like that, but I’ll leave it
there….<o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">When did you start getting into experimental music?<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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At the beginning of college, but more so after I moved to Colorado
in 81. It went along with starting a radio show focused on that. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Was it your show
Under the Floorboards?<o:p></o:p></b></div>
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I was doing it awhile before I finally settled on that name.
I started doing the late night shift on Saturdays on KGNU in 82.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">I stared listening to the Wild West Show in 83 with Richard and the Wolverine.
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I remember them, when I first started it was Peter Tonks'
show, Over the Edge. The Wild West Show was the replacement and Smash It Up
with Vanzetti replaced the Wild West Show. I always like following the punk
show and now I follow the Techno show. (laughter). <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">I have fond memories of seeing the Festival of Pain flier on a light
pole months after the show, mostly because it occurred on my birthday. I was
intrigued. I asked Duane Davis about his involvement in the Small Appliance
Orchestra…he also mentioned Blood Ball?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span><o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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Well Blood Ball was an ad hoc or one time sport they played
that night, just for the festival, to fit the “pain” theme. It involved a ball
and a lot of squirting red liquid and a lot of macho running around. I didn’t
participate myself; instead I huddled on the sidelines next to Duane wearing
some protective covering from the “blood”.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>Susanne Lewis from Spray Pals and Thinking Plague etc. was also in the
Small Appliance Orchestra, who, as you might guess, made music/noise with a
bunch of small appliances.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>My Walls Of
Genius crony Evan Cantor and I performed as The Pus-Tones.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>He played acoustic guitar and warbled old top
forty hits while I played found percussion (beer bottle, sauce pan, etc.) with
a drum stick while dancing around like an incensed goon in my loud thrift store
fashioned clothes, about which several folks expressed fascination: “Where did
you get those clothes/that jacket??”<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I
told them via “the Great Ed” cause it was Ed Fowler from Walls of Genius (not
there that night) who got me interested in loud thrift store fashion and who
picked out many items for me personally, including the weird, dazzly red jacket
that someone (Gil Asakawa?) called “one of the most awesomely homely sports jackets
to ever disgrace the human figure” in the write-up of the show in Westword. Various
stories, both good and bad, can be spun off from that night, but overall it was
a lot of fun. Evan actually recorded the whole event on his own reel to reel
recorder that he brought for the occasion, and as a result we were able to
include our rendition of CCR’s Green River, with sounds from the Blood Ball as
recorded from underneath, in the basement where the music happened, edited onto
the front and back of it, on our Crazed to the Core cassette release.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I remember once seeing a video of that event,
and oh what I wouldn’t do to get a hold of such a creature now….<o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">I remember hearing a lot of strange music and lyrics, words or what
have you on Under the Floorboards. I have to admit, it was challenging for a 14
year-old kid.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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I was playing the weirdest shit I could get my hands on.
That was my philosophy. I was trying to find anything worthwhile artistically
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">How do you define artistically?<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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That’s hard isn't it; you know it when you smell it. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Does it mean pushing limits? <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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My show is for the insects of society. I tried to find
material that represented unique individuals. Nowadays, people might call that
outsider. That can have different meanings. That word didn't exist as such back
then but I would define it nowadays as an intersection between outsider and
experimental. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">How did that coincide with playing in Wall of Genius? How did that band
fit with what you were playing on the radio?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
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If you were going to stick it in one category, Walls Of
Genius was experimental. There was a lot of pop, traditional, and classic
sensibilities that were interwoven into it. Some people might be perfectly
happy with those elements in experimental music whereas other might say that is
a compromise and not real experimental music. A lot of the stuff I played on
the radio was probably weirder. Overall maybe my show was a little more out
there than Walls of Genius. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">I loved the radio growing up. My mom was an avid listener to mostly
country or any station that had a contest. She was very open-minded about that
sort of thing. In my pre-teens I would roam the dial and listened to anything I
thought was interesting, even talk radio. In my early twenties, I discovered
Art Bell’s Coast to Coast and that shit spooked me in a big way, especially
when I lived in the South and drove in rural areas. For a moment I thought
maybe your show Under the Floorboards would be the perfect soundtrack for it. <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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(Laughter) Yeah, I would probably have to lean toward the
more instrumental side of things. You really can't get more outside than outer
space or aliens; they're outside of any normal experience. I'm sure many listeners
thought that stuff I had on my show were played by people from other worlds or
dimensions. I could definitely go along with that. Then again, it’s really all
part of the human experience, and that was an important part of what my show
was about, too.<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></i></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Back in the early to mid-80's how well did you feel connected to a scene?
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I felt totally connected; it was exciting in that sense. I
got a lot more phone calls on my radio show back then than I ever do nowadays.
I made some important connections to people in my life via calling in on my
radio show. Maybe it was because I was young, dumb, stupid and naive, but it
felt like it was one of the only few things I ever felt a part of in my life.
It felt I was part of an international scene. One of the musicians I played
with via Architects Office, Rick Corrigan. I remember him distinctly saying he
was hoping to change the world<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">, </i>at
least when he started out. I didn’t know how many people are aware of it, but I
really felt that a certain sense of 60's idealism as you might say about the
whole sense of there being a scene and having some sort of an affect on things.
Of course, nobody would really define that other than something going on that
mattered. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">Architects Office image. Image courtesy of the<br />Walls of Genius scrapbook on <a href="http://www.haltapes.com/">Hal Tapes</a>.</span></i></td></tr>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Speaking of Architects Office, I once bought a cassette from the band
at an art show and it came in a ziplock bag with a cool booklet with
Architecture-I think it had the Sleeper House on the cover. I didn’t know what
to expect when I popped in the tape, but it was hard to wrap my brain around
it. It sounded complete damaged. Going back to Art Bell, I think A.O. was otherworldly.
What did you exactly do in Architects Office and what was up with hand written
labels on cassettes tapes? It was obvious that they didn’t press a lot of them.
I’m thinking dubbing machine and maybe made on demand?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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Everyone was doing it whatever way it worked for them. You
gonna tell someone you can’t record and share your music just because you
didn’t come up with some sort of official artwork for the label? That said, I
prefer official like packages myself, for my own stuff and for others.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Just makes it more real.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>But I can understand why some people aren’t
into that. They’re just not into it!<o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">When I listen to experimental music, and this is a far stretch, I hear
droids from Star Wars? Do you think the sci-fi craze in the 70’s/80’s
contributed to what was to come later on? <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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Heh, I read a Pink Floyd bio which said they hated being
thought of as a sci-fi band!<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Think I
gotta draw a line here and say no, experimental music doesn’t really have to
have a damn thing to do with sci-fi.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It
might, and it could just as easily not.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>At the risk of sounding hippie, if it does for you, fine.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>But for others, including me, there’s no
inherent connection.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>We did something like this when I lived in Boulder, except we did the<br />Hare Krishna mantra. Image courtesy of <a href="http://www.haltapes.com/">Hal Tapes</a>.</i></span></td></tr>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Was the scene more open and less defined back then?<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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It is a lot more codified now. It seems like everyone had
figured out what genera they want to emulate or preserve from that past. Even
like punk and noise seems like, "Ok, this is a box" and people who
want to do that are going to go over and open that box. I may seem like a cynical
old fart, but I call things the way I see it. I don't get worked up over these matters;
I figure there are pros and cons going on all the time. I’m not entirely
connected anymore these days; it might not be my time for that. I should add
that I’m talking about musical trends there, cause I don’t know what the
musical trends are, and I don’t quite understand all the technology,
either.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>But there’s still plenty of
stuff happening and I see it happening all around me especially when I play out
live with my band and people respond to us and I feel a part of it then.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Even if I’m not always sure what it is!<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></i></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">What sort of phone calls did you on your radio show? <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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Sometimes they were form crazy people and sometime they were
from friends...or both. (Laughter) Well... I also worked graveyard shift at the
Hotel Boulderado at that time. I had weird interactions with people in the middle
of the night. One lady was convinced I was the reincarnation of a 16th century
poet. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">You remember shock jock Alan Berg from KOA 850 when he was ambushed
after pissing-off anyone and everyone. Were you ever threatened? Did you feel
that that crazy people tuned into your show and hoped they got that special
message they had been hoping for the next set of instructions?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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(Laughter) Maybe I was too naive to worry about that. Though
I did meet a guy through my radio show and through Wall of Genius who I gave a
ride to once and he started telling me how he was meditating on death. That was
a little unnerving.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">The combination of the strange music you played mixed with a nocturnal
audience brought out craziness? <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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I think you hit it on the head there. It was an intersection
of those two things, maybe even more late night. Nowadays I do a show from
11pm-midnight, but back then I started about at 1 am to 4 am. It was perfect
for me since I worked the graveyard shift and was up those hours anyways.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">‘Snake want's to be your friend’ is a song that always stuck out
listening to your show. Who played that? It started off with a slow country
waltz, gradually speeding up and it turned into this fast-tempo screaming how
the snake wanted to be your friend. <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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Wow, I don't know. You're testing the limits of my brain
cells!<o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">That's your homework, find the song, I want to know who played that. <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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I think you’ll have to wait till I’m in my 90’s and have
nothing else to do.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Sorry!<o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Speaking of forgotten songs, you also played a Krautrock one with the
line, "There's no Coca Cola in Angola"<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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In the mist of all this experimental music, I played stuff
that had some sort of cheesy catchiness to it too. That sentiment was reflected
in Walls of Genius as well. Some people were into the experimental music I was
playing and other thought it was appalling. Someone has to think it's appalling
or it's not experimental. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">I always think if most people like it, you miss the point of being
experimental...as to say if you're parents like it...<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">In the
late 80’s Duane offered my friend Matt and I part-time seasonal work at Wax
Trax. After a couple of weeks, it was obvious that my music knowledge didn’t
quite cut the mustard. Duane suggested it would be a better idea for me to
focus on completing community college.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">For
those 2-3 weeks, there was some sort of prestige working behind the store’s
glass counter, ringing up purchases, finding albums for people, and of course
getting that 10% discount to help payoff my brown paper bag. The paper bag was
my generation’s (analog) version of today’s virtual shopping cart; meaning if you
were in good standing, the clerks would let you keep a bag of records you intended
to buy but couldn’t afford at the moment. The process was habit forming and operated
like this: you’d come in and figure out what you could chip away at followed by
browsing the bins for new discs to refill the bag. Nowadays, you just pay with
a credit card for instant gratification and instant debt. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">In
almost every interview I've conducted and post I've written, Wax Trax comes up time
and time again; it’s a testament to how fundamental the store was to the
development of Denver’s punk and underground music scene. The shop was command
central providing: music, band shirts, stickers, buttons, fanzines, a meeting place,
information about shows, an in-house records label, publishing a paper, and
providing a space to foster a community. You can blame owner’s Duane and
David’s efforts for getting the music into the store and into the hands of impressionable
kids who in turn started their own bands…it spread like an infectious disease.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">I have
known Duane and others who have been associated with the store for over 30
years. I usually stop by to see him within the first 24-hours of arriving in
Denver. Our conversation usually starts with one of his biting smart-ass
remarks. Also important to note, tucked away in the back of the store is Dave
Wilkins-perhaps the Dr. Evil of the entire operation-making phone calls to
distributors to flood the bins with music to corrupt lives. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">Duane
was one of the first supporters of this project in mid-90’s handing me early
issues of Local Anesthetic, record covers, and other items of interests. Hocking
music to the public is a tricky business with continual changes in fads and
tastes. Music is a soundtrack hallmarking passing moments and defining the
present day. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Duane shares his thoughts
about the store, music, and ideas about running a record store. ¡Viva Wax Trax!</span></div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>Duane in the summer of 2014 at the store. Original photograph by the author. Brush and ink drawing by Bob Rob (Medina). </i></span></td></tr>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">In
an interview with Yellow Rake fanzine you mentioned that you and Dave Stidman
took over Wax Trax in late 1978 after leaving your collective jobs as
caseworkers for social services. Your new mission was to corrupt adolescents
rather than save them. With you at the helm of being Denver’s main punk rock
music pusher, I have an image of you being similar the old man barbershop character in
Spike Lee’s movie Clockers. The guy recruits young boys to sell drugs for him.
But in you case you had young kids pushing punk records? What was your and
Dave’s vision in taking over the record store?<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">Our
vision for the store actually had a lot less to do with young kids than it did
with the music. In 1978 Dave and I were in our early 30s, we were both married
(Dave had a couple of kids), had what passed for 'real' jobs as caseworkers in
Adolescents In Crisis Units with Jefferson County Social Services, house
mortgages, and car payments. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">At
this point not a lot of punk rock had seeped into Denver: a handful of pissed-off
and generally maladjusted adolescents were trying on spiked hair, Elvis-style
sneers and safety pins. They jumped up and down in the middle of the floor at
house parties with bands like The Violators and Defex grinding out loud, fast
music. They were all getting their own electric guitars and learning the
requisite two chords and wide-legged Johnny Ramone stance. And they were all
coming into Wax Trax to buy the singles and LPs of the new punk rock, which it
bears noting, was never as monolithic or narrow as the genre petrification that
set in by the early Eighties. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">It was
obvious then and it is even more obvious now that punk rock owed a lot to Iggy
and The Stooges, the New York Dolls, Alice Cooper, Bowie and, importantly, going
even further back, countless rockabilly, garage and, yes, even psychedelic,
bands and performers from the Fifties to the Seventies. Punk rock was not just
the Sex Pistols and Clash: it was also Elvis Costello, the Jam, Joe Jackson and
Ian Dury; it was Buzzcocks, Siouxsie & The Banshees, Throbbing Gristle and
Ultravox.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">Dave
and I had grown up (and through) a lot of that older music. For us, the music
we loved, from Gene Vincent to the 13th Floor Elevators, from Elvis to Patti
Smith, from Johnny Burnett to The Shadows of Knight, from James Brown to the
Who, was of a piece with punk, a straight-out continuation of music and
attitude that was formed and shaped by the pressures of daily life for each
succeeding generation.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">The
wonderful thing about Wax Trax was that we were immediately in a situation
where we could not only try to share what we knew about music but we were
learning, every day, every hour, from the people who came into the shop. We
would say, 'Here, listen to this...' and put on Joy Division, Killing Joke, Magazine,
Echo & The Bunnymen, Pere Ubu and the next thing we knew the person on the
other side of the counter was telling us about something else, something they
had heard and liked and wanted us to know about, something that spoke to them
and they wanted to know if it would speak to us: this is the shared experience,
the momentary community that springs up when you and someone else hears a piece
of music and it ropes you into not just a closer contact with your own feelings
but the feelings of the other as well.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>"The Wax Trax Crash Party was the 1-year anniversary of a car crashing into the Wax Trax store on the corner of 13th and Washington on February 7, 1979, pinning worker Steve Bruner under the car. This was the Gluons first gig and the DefeX final gig." Flier and caption courtesy of <a href="http://Trashistruth.com/">Trashistruth.com</a></i></span></td></tr>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">You
did have a lot of people who played in bands working behind the counter, was
that a conscious decision to field with store with staff that were
knowledgeable on what was relevant and current?</span></i></b></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">Well,
'conscious' in the sense that we, of course, wanted people working behind the
counter who loved and knew music, though not necessarily just the music we
liked. Again, the people who have worked at Wax Trax for the last three and
half decades have unfailingly taught me a lot about music. Our first employee,
Steve Knutson, talked me into driving up to Boulder in February, 1979 to see
Pere Ubu at the Blue Note. The show absolutely blew me away, one of the best
shows I've ever seen and keep in mind I saw Dylan, The Rolling Stones and The
Byrds in 1966! <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">About
employees: I never thought that having a record store meant being a boss- more
like it meant collecting around us a core of like-minded people who loved music
and who were ferocious in that devotion, who liked to argue and stake out
outrageous claims for their taste: who would go toe-to-toe with you about what
music counted and what music didn't: who could give as good they got: who
didn't back down when someone said something they liked was crap, but just
laughed and turned the volume up. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">What
I always liked about your business practices was that when touring bands would
pull through town, you’d support them by buying some of their merchandise to
help give them gas money? Was that a common practice? <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">I
imagine it was fairly common for independent record stores. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>Local Anesthetic newspaper/fanzine</i></span></td></tr>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">I
had penpals I’d trade records with during my mid-teens and they always asked
about Wax Trax, did you feel that the store was a destination for music lovers,
bands, etc. visiting Denver? Wax Trax served as a hub of information about
shows. Would people show up looking for fliers or call the store? How was the
store central in that? <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">Right
from the start we thought of Wax Trax as a hub for people interested in the
kind of music we ourselves were interested in. This was all pre-internet and
information was distributed primarily by print. Because so much of the punk and
post-punk music was coming out of the UK, we read the Brit papers like they
were the bible: New Musical Express, Sounds, and Melody Maker were the big
three. What we read there had a lot to do with what we would order from the
small number of distributors we were getting import records from in the late
70’s to the early 80’s.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">Finding
out about, obtaining, listening to and then judging the music: and then getting
people to hear the music. That was the process: while we were educating
ourselves, we hoped to share that knowledge with the people who came into the
shop, eager to hear something new and exciting.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">A
natural corollary to this was getting the word out about the local music scene.
The kids who worked at Wax Trax had bands and so did a lot of the kids who
shopped with us. We went to their shows and wanted to make sure others did as
well so we did what we could to get the word out. Flyers, fanzines and
word-of-mouth were about all anyone could afford at that time.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">Mercury
Cafe was right around on the corner, how important was the relationship with
Marilyn who ran it? Did one hand feed the other? <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">Marilyn
Megenity is the Mother Teresa of punk rock in Denver. While the Mercury Cafe
was around the corner from Wax Trax, Marilyn put on shows from Black Flag, X,
the Gun Club, TSOL, the Misfits, the Birthday Party, Bad Brains, Dead Kennedys,
Husker Du, Dream Syndicate, Green On Red, Rain Parade, the Church, Jonathan
Richman, Nico, Glenn Branca and the list goes on and on. And don't even get me
started on local bands: everyone played there!<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">Marilyn
didn't just put on shows: she cared about the bands (even when she didn't care
for the music) and she cared for the people who came to the shows. The Mercury
Cafe was as essential to the Denver scene as Wax Trax-if not more so!<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">At
some point the store decided to start the zine Local Anesthetic and later a
label under the same title. Running a record shop was hard enough, why start a
label? <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">It
seems to me that you couldn't have a record store in the Eighties and not have
a fanzine and a label. We all did it. Today you have a blog and an audio file
on the internet; in 1979 you had a copy shop and 7" single.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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you intentionally want to document the unfolding scene at the time? Did you
feel that post-punk and hardcore was on the cusp of something big?<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">'Big'
didn't matter. What mattered was intensity, depth, ferocity, Us/Them. So, yes,
I wanted some marks made that would indicate the passing of these moments,
snapshots of chaos, confusion, uncontrollable energy and the different ways
people tried to make sense of being alive.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">What
was the first record Local Anesthetic released? How did it feel when the boxes
arrived? At some point the store stopped pursuing the label, what was the
decision behind that? If you had a time machine would have saved a couple more
boxes of the Bum Kon and Frantix EPs? <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">The
first official release was Your Funeral, <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">I
Want To Be You</i>. The first record I actually put out through Wax Trax was
The Gluons w/Allen Ginsberg, <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Bird Brain</i>.
The former was on Local Anesthetic; the latter was on Alekos (a name provided
by Mike Chapelle of the Gluons). Getting the records in the store and out on
the shelf was always exciting and fun.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">The
label stopped when it stopped being fun.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">Local
Anesthetic Records was determinedly DIY. We were cheap, fast, and disposable.
Squirrelling away records against the possibility of their being worth
something in the future would have been against the spirit of the times. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">Speaking
of the Frantix, they still seem to be getting a lot of mileage out of those two
EPs reissued in Australia and most recently Alternative Tentacles. I only saw
then a few times and each time blew me away. How did you feel about their sound
and vibe?<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">Thirty
plus years later, the Frantix still seem to me one of the best things I was
ever involved with. Those four guys tore it up. I could not be happier that
Alternative Tentacles recently re-issued as much of the Frantix material as
they could get their hands on. To this day, I believe <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">My Dad's A Fuckin' Alcoholic</i> stands up with the best punk rock ever
made. To have been part of the process that got that song out to the world on
record is something I am absurdly proud of.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">In
releasing records was there any sort of criteria you were looking for and how
did you approach bands? <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">No
criteria really other than being something that in one way or another appealed
to me. The 'approach' was usually made after a number of beers at a show.
Either I or someone in the band would throw an arm around the other and shout,
'Fuck an A, man, we should put out a record!' And then, sometimes, we would.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">You
have been around awhile, you have seen music fads come and go. Did you think
the whole punk thing was different? Did you think it would still be relevant in
2015?<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">Hmmm...
'Was it different?' A trick(y) question. Every revolution is different and at
the same time that it is different, it draws on, feeds on, a core set of
problematics: identity, resistance, celebration, rejection of the old and
creation of the new. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss: Sex, Drugs and
Rock n Roll. Punk was dead almost as soon as it was born; Punk was, arguably,
dead before the first Frantix record. But it has a very lively corpse, even now
in 2015.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">On
a personal level you seemed invested in the hardcore scene as it was emerging,
what propelled that interest? Did you ever consider yourself a part of the
scene? <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">Hardcore
was only one splinter of the music I was interested in: post-punk, industrial,
and paisley underground all meant, and still means a lot to me. A kid who
worked at Wax Trax for a few years in the early 80’s once confided to me very
earnestly that he would never listen to anything but Crass-they made the music
that mattered. A few weeks later, he was listening to a bunch of Motown,
soaking it up, letting it into his DNA, changing him, making him touch the
world in different ways and places. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">Despite
seeing a lot of hardcore bands over the years, I wouldn't say I was ever part
of the scene: more of an interested bystander.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">You
have quite a photo collection from going to shows, why did you want to
intentionally document the bands and people?<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">Mostly
I wanted to take pictures at the gigs because these kids were so fucking wild!
Every show was an anthropologist's dream: tribal markings, secret rites, ritual
dances, ceremonies of inclusion and exclusion, spectacular courting displays
and buckings up and down the pecking order.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">There
seems to be a lot of nostalgia for punk, reissues and such, was it the same in
the 70’s and 80’s where people were itching for Greaser and Flower Power songs?
<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">Nostalgia
has always been big business. Count on it: someone will always be looking to
turn a buck on re-packaging your past. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">Speaking
of reissues, there are a lot of punk documentaries and books coming out. The
market seems almost flooded by them…sort of like craft breweries. I was talking
with a brewer at Great Divide in Denver recently and asked him what he thought
the future of beer was? What was the landscape going to look like once the dust
settled? He was under the impression that brew pubs will serve small
communities. I guess I sort of feel that way with Denvoid and the Cowtown
Punks. I don’t envision selling a lot of copies; it’s more of a yearbook of
Denver’s outcasts. What do you think about the whole ‘revamping the past’ trend
that seems to be rage? <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">Just
as there are micro-breweries there are micro-musics: communities of enthusiasts
who gather together in celebration of shared likes and dislikes. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">Is
it true that Dave Wilkins…</span></i></b><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";"> <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">...used
to wear highwater flares? Yes!<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">You
were in the ensemble, Small Appliance Orchestra. What was the concept behind
that? Any other musical ambitions?<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">The
Small Appliance Orchestra was a one-off goof: just me and three or four others
folks who worked at Wax Trax (or, who hung around so much they might as well
have). We put it together for the Festival of Pain, an event that was staged at
an art gallery down on Santa Fe in, what?, the mid-1980s or so. I can't recall
exactly the line-up and 'instruments' but we had a vacuum cleaner, some
ice-cube trays, a pile of old, busted turntables tied by worn-out extension
cords to someone who pulled them around the room, Suzanne Lewis had a big
bucket of empty baby food jars that she crashed up and down on the concrete
floor until there were glass shards flying everywhere. Music & Risk, my
favorite combo.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">As is
probably apparent from the above description: No, no musical ambitions...<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">Going
back to underage punk kids running the register, did the city ever slap a fine
on the store for hiring kids? <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">No. In
fact, the city often offered to pay me to keep those kids off the street and in
my store.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="font-size: 13px; padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>The store would sometimes receive altered currency. Collection of Duane Davis. </i></span></td></tr>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">How
is the relationship of the store now with the so-called underground community?
What has changed in your opinion?<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">Honestly-I've
gotten older and more tired. I still have people working at the store who are
vitally involved in 'underground' music. I listen to them talk about it, hear
the music when I can, encourage them when appropriate. How it may have changed
is unclear to me. After so much music over so many years, it is sometimes hard
to hear that something is new or fresh. Too much ends up reminding me of
something else, which isn't bad unless it is reminding you of something else
that is better.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">What
were some of the local punk bands you enjoyed watching?<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span style="mso-bidi-font-family: "Helvetica Neue";">Ahhh...
Your Funeral, Frantix, Young Weasels, White Trash, Violators, Defex, Zebra One
Two Three, Jonny III, Gluons/Still Life, Bum Kon, Fluid, Acid Ranch, Peace Core,
Corpses As Bedmates, Aviators, Crankcall Love Affair, Butt Corx, Dog Meat,
Big If, Thinking Plague, Hail, Chelsea Girls, Pagan Cowboys, ASF, and
everything Jeri Rossi was ever involved in... and dozens of others my poor ol'
brain has lost track of.</span></div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>The soda pop machine at Wax Trax, it was a haven for local and touring band stickers. Collection of the author.</i></span></td></tr>
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Bob Rob Medinahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05818604452391830233noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1007449741570868085.post-12485496742781974762015-05-20T07:04:00.001-07:002015-07-02T14:54:37.916-07:00Denver's Rok Tots: A conversation with Jif Jiper<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><i><i>The Rok Tots typically found themselves in the middle of several
controversies stretching from the Secret Service and City of Denver investigating
the band’s concert promoting methods, to vocalist, Jif Jiper (Jeff Reifsteck)
jumping off stage and clubbing hecklers at shows, and of course there is the
intimidating Jimi West (Jimmy) in his signature black leather jacket and blue
jeans. The band’s reputation precedes them and I believe they embraced and
espoused that sort of confrontational and menacing down and dirty rock-n-roll
vibe. Their attitude and aesthetic built an impossible to penetrate barrier
resulting in isolation. </i><span style="font-family: Times; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;"><o:p></o:p></span></i></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><i><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Musically, you hear
The Who mixed with early punk rock in both brazenness and sound. I never caught
the band in their heyday with Jiper on vocals, Jimi driving the sound on guitar
backed up by Toby Rat Tit on drums and Ronnie Rok Tot on bass. Hearing a few of
Matt Bischoff’s and Nate Butler’s firsthand accounts of the original line-up,
paints a hectic and unnerving setting of a band blazing through songs stacked
Ramones style shadowed by a heavy chunky guitar and vocals that ripped into
you. The Frantix unapologetically credit much of their ambition for starting a
band to the Tots. <o:p></o:p></i></i></i></span></div>
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<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">I played in a band in
the late 80’s at one of Bob Rupp’s Rock Fest with the Rok Tots headlining.
Every other band used backline equipment, but when the Rok Tots hit the stage,
they wheeled on Jimmy’s Marshall amps and changed the drum set. It was
indicative of who really ran the show. Needless to say, even without Jif fronting
the group, they still stole the show enlightening and disenfranchising audience
members. The group’s big sound had a natural knack to weed out such spectators.
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<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">I consider the Rok
Tots to be on the tail end of Denver’s first wave of punk of the late
70’s/early 80’s. They helped pave the path for the emerging punk/hardcore bands:
Frantix, Bum Kon and Child Abuse. While the Tots co-existed in that context,
they tended to shy away form being a part of the developing hardcore community.
Tom Headbanger forged a working relationship with Jimmy hiring him to do sound
for his shows at Kennedy’s and the Packinghouse, that was the extent of Jimmy’s
connection during that time period.<o:p></o:p></i></div>
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<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">In 83, Jiper left the
band to become a father and West was without a functioning and preforming band until he called Jif’s great
grandma to get his phone number. Meanwhile, West assumed all but drum duties
and self-released a Rok Tots 7” single: Suicide Weekend B/W Situation Kid in
early 84.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>After some convincing, Jiper
was back in the fold and in late 84 the band reemerged with a new bassist,
Kristi Wilson and drummer, Martin Day-a former high school classmate of mine.
The band resumed booking shows on their own terms. <o:p></o:p></i></div>
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<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">One of the
misconceptions of the band Jif states, “Jimi's hard-ass demeanor shouldn't be
misread, there aren't a whole lotta folks I know on this planet with bigger
hearts, dedicated to helping people out than Jimi-just stay outta his way and
don't fuck with his agenda.” There were always rumors surrounding Jimi from
packing heat to stories of him pulling knives of people who fucked with him.
Jif’s account was that Jimi grew up fast and hard and knew how to deal with
bullshit early on. The first time I saw Jimi in action I learned early on, you
didn’t want to be on his shit list. Anytime I saw someone in the audience get
into it with him or a band complaining about the sound of his PA system, I
moved off into the distance because it was going to end bad and didn’t want any
part of that collateral damage. Everyone I spoke with has a story about Jimi and
with that mostly comes with admiration. His demeanor demanded that respect not
because he was imposing his agenda, but because logically, he was often in the
right. <o:p></o:p></i></div>
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<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Think what you will
about the Rok Tots, but don’t discount their influence on Denver’s early
hardcore scene. The band embraced and lived the do-it-yourself ethic whole-heartedly.
Other than Black Flag, there weren’t many other bands during that period that
built and carried their PA system and booked their own shows. They didn’t sit
around waiting to be discovered, they did their own dirty work. From the
start, they took the hard path and with mixed results the Rok Tots ended on
their terms. <o:p></o:p></i></div>
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<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">One of the founding
members of the Rok Tots, Jeff “Jif” Reifsteck candidly speaks about growing-up
and his time in the band. </i></div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"><i>Rok Tots circa 1980 at Malfunction Junction. Original photo by Joe Hughes. Brush and Ink drawing by: Bob Rob Medina</i></span></td></tr>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Where in Colorado did you grow-up? <o:p></o:p></i></b></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">In Walden, it’s halfway between Fort Collins and Laramie,
Wyoming. It was a small town and everyone knew each other. I had to leave rather
quickly when I was 17. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Why? <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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I was working at a gas station and a 67 Impala pulls in with
tourists. I hated tourists. I filled-up their tank, washed the windows, checked
the oil and all that happy crap. The guy pops open the trunk and I noticed a
case of Jack Daniels sitting in there. We started talking, they were headed out
to Delaney Buttes. This is June, so there wasn’t a lot of pot around and we
hadn't had any for two weeks. It was hard to get good drugs. The closest college
town for that sort of stuff was Fort Collins, which was ok, or Laramie, which
is, “I don't think so.” Anyways, this case of Jack Daniels is looking pretty
appealing to me. I get with my friends after work and said, "Why don't we
drive out to the buttes because I got a little plan and I want to talk to you
guys about it." We headed out there at about nine at night and I'm telling them
as we drive, "I think all we need is a crowbar-we should be
able to pop that trunk right open, steal that case of whiskey and have
ourselves a wild party.” We find where they’re camped. They had a camper and
the Impala. We're sitting up on the road above the campground, maybe 50 yards
away. I go, "Why don't you guys drive down there, turn around and wait for
me 100 yards up the road. My friends were, "What are you going to
do?" I said, "Just watch." You know, famous redneck’s last
words. They dropped me off near the camper, about 25 yards out and I give it a
dead run jumping up on top of the hood of the camper. I run across the top and
jump off the end flying through the air. I hear the door slam open as I landed
and turned around. The guy yells, "You goddam hippy, you come through here
again and I'll shoot your ass!" I go, “Really?” I pulled down my pants and
waved my dick at him and told him to "Shoot this!" I pulled my pants back
up and sprint for the car. Of course my compatriots are laughing their asses
off. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Later that night we head back out to steal the liquor. We
sitting in the same spot right above the camper, it's dark. We're watching and
their light is still on. The light finally goes out. We waited like a half an
hour. We see the door open in the camper and the next thing we hear is, pop pop
pop. These son-of-a-bitches come out of the camper and start shooting at the
car. The car's running thank God. We floor it and go back into town. We pulled in to town heading down Main Street. We happened to see the town Marshall and wave him
over and say, "Man, check this out, we have two bullet holes in the car
were some people were shooting at us out in Delaney Buttes. We’re all acting
innocent and shit. He goes, "Damn, we have to sort that out. I'll tell you
what’s weird about that, Irv (the county Sheriff) he's on his way out there
right now!" He continues, "Here's the deal, Irv should be back here
in about 45-minutes to an hour, why don't you guys meet us out at the
courthouse when he gets back and we'll sort all this out." My friends go
home and I tell them I'll seem them back at the courthouse. They were like,
"Yeah, fuck you." Even though I'm a rebel, I'm still a pretty good
kid. I'm thinking, he told me I had to meet him at the courthouse so I'm going
to meet him there. About an hour later I stroll up to the courthouse and I see
Irv is back because his car is there. That Impala is also sitting out there. I
walk down into the Sherriff’s office in the basement where the jail is. As soon
as I walked in all of these people from the campground are sitting in there
with him. They go, "That's him!" Irv goes, "That's the one who
exposed himself?" (Laughter) These people shot at us and I'm the one in
trouble for running on top of their camper and waving my wennie at them. And
they knew nothing about my little plot to steal their whiskey. <o:p></o:p></div>
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In the next half-hour my great grandma is called out of bed.
It's one in the morning and she's down there and this is the second time she's
been down at the police station for me. She was, "God, I don't know what
it is with you blah blah blah, so anyways they didn't issue me a summons or
anything like that because it was the weekend. Monday morning I walk into the
District Attorney’s office because I know the guy and I need to talk with him,
besides he lives across the street from me. They all have known me since I was
a baby; literally the Sheriff wiped my nose.... Andy Griffith shit. I walk into
his office, he looks up totally impassive, tells me that we need to talk about
this because he doesn't know what needs to be done about the incident. I never
dealt with anything like that before. Basically I asked, "What are we
going to do?" He looks across his desk and says waving his finger at me,
"This time I'm going to get you." I go home and tell my great grandma
this, she said, "If that’s what he told you, you have to leave.” He was
probably going to put me in jail for this. She called my grandfather up in
Canada and I moved up there for a while. When I returned, I moved to Denver.
That's how I left Walden. I had a lot of help to clean all this shit up so I
could get into more trouble. <i><o:p></o:p></i></div>
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There was a Top 40 band called, Oscar in 1978/79 and Jimmy
West played in it. When I joined they were looking for a rhythm guitar player,
which we found later. They were already together and I was looking for a
high-energy band. There were only a few clubs in Denver where we could play our
type of music. There was a lot of bullshit to the professional side of it. We
were 22 years-old and had been playing music for several years so we knew what
we wanted to do. Denver was so slow to catch on to anything; Disco died a slow
laborious death here. When Oscar came out, there were only three 3.2 bars in
town to play: Sam's on Lookout Mountain, House of Draft on 13th Ave. and Billy
Jacks out on Yosemite and 11th near Aurora. That was the circuit. A lot of the
players in that first wave of punk and new wave came out of that. That's why
they were so pissed off. Bands like the Johnny 3 played new wave songs and long
before this was considered a joke, I shit you not; they played behind chicken
wire because people threw shit at them. That’s how we started. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Jimmy and I developed an affinity because I went in there
and these other two guys were looking at me and I'm doing shoulder stands, big
Jagger leaps and Iggy Pop twists, twirling a mic like Roger Daltrey. I'm pulling
out all the fucking stops because I'm auditioning. I could tell these guys were
thinking, "This guy is way to much for us." Jimmy is like, "I think
this guy might work." These guys split-up because, get this, we're playing
Top 40 music in 3.2 bars and they think there's artistic differences. Are you
fucking kidding me, artistic differences are splitting up a podunk band from a
podunk town? We were good, but come on; we're not playing any out of town gigs,
homecomings, proms or any shit like that.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>They split. Jimmy and I had to start from square one. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Jimmy and I put a band together we wanted. We wanted to play
Clash and Sex Pistols covers. We auditioned and this will sound like an
exaggeration, but it is not, every rock and roll bass player and drummer in
this town. I shit you not. Jimmy and I both had a notebook full of names and
numbers. Our ad ran for 6-7 months. None of these guys...the guys we wanted
were catching on to the same shit we were catching on to, which were basically
Ramones, Sex Pistols, and Clash. They didn't want to join our band, they wanted to make their own. We ended up with a bassist-drum team: Ronnie Rok Tot was the
bass player and Mike Juddish the drummer. We fired Mike because he got a new
telescope and we practiced five nights a week. He called three nights in a row
and tells us he's still grooving on his telescope. Jimmy tells him, "Well, you can keeping grooving on your telescope and you can come and get your
fucking drums.” We’re back to the ads and hitting every music store in town
looking at their boards. It was a lot of foot and phone work. Finally this
pretty boy comes over and he's a towering six foot-four and shows up with this
total anti-punk clear red drum kit. It turned out he was fucking good. That was
Toby Rat Tit. At the time he was working for Gulf Oil as Director of Regulatory
Compliance. This guy is maybe 7 years older than us and had Robert Plant premed
hair, drove a Firebird-his slummy car. He also had a Corvette. Toby was the
moneyman behind the Rok Tots. He was so generous and we did so much equipment
wise because of him. He really gave us a boost. That was the original band. <o:p></o:p></div>
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It happened pretty quickly. Jimmy had a couple of originals
we played in Oscar. Jimmy and I, just the two of us would work on stuff and by
the time Ron came on board we had half a dozen others. Jimmy and I would work
on the songs, get it down, the breaks, chorus, all this and we'd give it to the
other guys and iron out the kinks. Jimmy would tell everybody what to do. Toby
would take these detailed notes and have legal pads of all of these hash marks
of every beat and time measure to play. Ronnie was a natural and just went with
it. We were stressing to Ron and Toby, "We don't think playing bars is
where it's at. If we have to move to a better market, we're prepared to
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A new bar named Walabi's opened up-it was a pretty cool
place. They didn't have a stage, but had a decent size room. It wasn't
sleazy like we were used to. By the time we got into Walabi's we pretty much
had a dozen originals. We played our first gig, February of 79, it was a four
set a night up at a little bar in Brighton. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i>I have this theory that you were at the end of that first wave of punk
and new wave and you were the link between punk and what was later to become
hardcore. When the Frantix saw the Rok Tots it made such a huge impression on
them that they wanted to “destroy the universe” like you guys did. What was it like
seeing bands develop after you guys? <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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I could go with the punk thing. I was talking with Jill
Razer about this. It was like the depression era. You make-do with what you
got. You excel at doing with what you have. You know the Rok Tots PA system?
Jimmy built that fucking thing form scratch, the board, and every speaker
cabinet. The only thing he didn't build was the huge theatre woofers. These
things were like six feet tall and three feet wide. That's what I thought of as
punk. We didn't play punk rock music; we played really hard rock-n-roll. Did we
have an edge? "Yeah," but is it meant to be punk? "Fuck I
don't know." To me, Paint it Black is a punk song. I don't see a lot of
difference. Are you pissed? Do you have a lot of energy? Did you get spit on a
lot? Did people come up to you and call you faggot? People try to pick fights
with you? Did neo-Nazis come to your gig and have to be beaten down? I guess
that’s punk. We worked hard on being a really good band. My music heroes are
The Who and The Stooges-to an extent because they were sloppy. The Rok Tots
were not a sloppy band. When the Ramones came out we thought they could use a
singer, but the band was fucking good. (Laughter) <o:p></o:p></div>
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The Rok Tots were an arrogant outfit anyway. Jimmy not so much,
he was shy. The rest of us knew we were the kings and could eat your lunch any
day of the week so stay back from us. Young Weasels and bands like that, we
thought they were wennies. Really, you call this rock-n-roll? You’re shitting
me. People flock to this thing and they’re getting a fucking Sweet Tart instead
of a jolt of heroin. What's the point? There were an awful lot of band like
that. The Johnny 3 we liked. Leroy X and the X-Citations, good fucking band.
There were some good ones around. The Fluid, fuck yeah. On a good night if you got
the Fluid and the Rok Tots you got your money's worth and more. The other
bands, I wasn't paying that much attention. Number one: we had a bunch of shit
going on. Number two: we worked really hard to stay out of the scene. When I
talked with Jimmy recently we were talking about the scene and he said,
"Fuck the scene, you make your own scene." You know, all the great
bands in history all stayed apart a little bit. That might seem a little
exclusive and it's a ploy and in our case it was self-defense. I didn't go out
to see many local bands because we were busy and when I did get out it, it was
to see bigger bands like the Ramones, Iggy Pop, Bad Brains, somebody that was
better than us or that was different. Back in those days a concert dollar was
considered an education dollar. I wanted to go see somebody that was going to
teach me something. I know that sounds, “oh sure” but that was the way I looked
at it. I'm not going to go see Auggy Rocks and the Lipstick Gun Fighters;
they're only going to teach me what not to do. Now I can see the linage a
little bit. Everything in Denver back in the early 80's was done from the stand
point of things weren't going to get a whole lot better so lets just have a
fucking good time right now. <o:p></o:p></div>
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being outsiders. Hypothetically, if the Rok Tots were more involved in the
scene and played more shows out you might have had a larger following and more
support? Maybe if you were in that circle you could have got on larger bills
with bands like Black Flag, Bad Brains, and the like? I don't see evidence of
you guys playing large shows other than the local ones you put on. <o:p></o:p></i></b></span></div>
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Let me put some perspective on that. We opened for one main
act and that was Joan Jett and the Blackhearts down in Colorado Springs. We
swore after that gig we’d never open for anybody again. We were already spoiled
from doing everything ourselves. When we put on shows we only had two major
expenses: Rent the venue and hire security. The rest was logistics like rent a
truck from U-Haul to get the PA there. In those days you didn't have to worry
about the insurance and all that crap because nobody was doing that. The Joan
Jett thing left us with such a bad taste in our mouth we were like, "Fuck
this." These assholes came and used our PA. When the deli tray was sent
over The Blackhearts attacked it. Toby goes over to them and asks, "Do you
guys mind if we have some food?" They were, "No, this is for
us." Later on in the night I’m getting ready to go on and I just stand
getting my shit together, meditate if you will. Joan Jett was right beside me,
she never said one fucking word to me and she was around me for hours. Maybe I
was suppose to bow down to her. Later on that night, it was summer, we come off
stage all hot and sweaty. Now we can get high, we had a rule in the band where
you couldn’t get high or drunk before or during the show. Now it's time to go burn
one. We go out to the parking lot and Joan Jett is lying across the hood of
Toby's Corvette on her back with her legs spread. Toby walks up and stands in
front of her and says, "Get your fat ass off my fucking car!" After
the gig we're putting the shit away, doing our inventory and we're missing
three mic stands. Well, they fucking stole them from us. That was the clincher.
They're a big band touring with record company money and they steal mic stands
form a working band that let them use their PA so they could have nice
equipment. Fuck you. We stopped; from then on we rented halls, theaters, and
never accepted anything less than top of the bill. <o:p></o:p></div>
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We had people fuck with us constantly. Westword hated our
guts. They would call us and try to get in show for free. The guy at the Ricky
Mountain News didn't try that. Who in the fuck did they think they were? We slit
our own throats in a lot of ways. It was because we were tired of taking
shit.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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There was no mosh pit when we played, but there would be a
semi-circle in front of the stage...an open space where very few people would
venture unless they were dancing. That's because usually at the very beginning
of the gig some asshole would come into that space and fuck with me. I would
throw down the microphone to the fucking floor and jump off stage and get a few
teeth out of him. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i>I heard a story from Nate Butler about when the Rok Tots played the
Pirate Gallery. Some guy in the audience was fucking with you guys and you got
off stage, clobbered the dude, then went back and finished the song. <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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That's right, and that son-of-a-bitch came back to me about
15 minutes later with his mouth dripping blood, he looks at me and says,
"I still think you're a faggot." Give me a fucking break. Those
Pirate Art shows were awesome though. Phil Bender and his crew knew how to
throw a party. They had a stock tank on the floor. Do you know what that is? <o:p></o:p></div>
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Yeah, to water the cattle in. It looks like a huge washtub
you can swim in. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Filled with ice and beer. Usually Schafer or some other high
quality beer. (Laughter)<o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i>Do you think your music brought out the audience’s rowdiness? Where you
the soundtrack for people who were looking to throw down? <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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Kind of. Your crowd is going to project on the entertainers.
That’s always going to happen. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i>Did you like that? <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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I studied psychology, particular Jungian and Freudian and
some of the modern people just to figure out how to incite that, how to create
that, how to work that mass illusion. Once you do that you have a
responsibility to control it. That’s what most entertainers that are sexual do.
Like Sinatra, Cab Calloway, Elvis, Jagger, and Iggy you have to bring that out
in people and our music is going to do that, the attraction to outsiders and
bad people. <o:p></o:p></div>
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There was this kid that would come and get up stage left and
open his bible and start reading it to me while I'm preforming. He's like
exorcising some demon or something like that. I'm like, "I hope you get
your fucking dick wet tonight because you pick the hard way to go, you're never
going to save my ass." You work on that stuff primarily so you can be
popular. You also figure out how to center this down and it’s best not to
always use fisticuffs. You have to get into that aspect of it as well. If you
go to a show with a good front man, you know what they do. They’re almost like
a magician, they bring people up and get just right there and go, “That's
far enough.” Jimmy and I worked on that a lot. Jimmy is just as good as a front
me as I am. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">We were badass rock-n-rollers. People considered us a
dangerous band. Not always dangerous, just assholes. But they always thought,
"What are they going to do next?" We kept everybody off balanced
because that is a form of control. We had to control people. I don't know if
you've spoken with Razer, she has big fucking balls. She’s 5' 2" and
standing looking straight up into the air at some six foot two neo-Nazi dude
telling him, "You’re not getting in here motherfucker!" Obviously we
courted that thing to live up to that image. I don't know who the Beatles would
have been in this town, but we were the Rolling Stones. We were the guys that
didn't give a shit and pissed in your yard. It’s lucky no body got killed
because we had nasty turns of luck through that period. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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We played the Federal Theater and KBDI came down to film it.
It was us, the Fluid and another band. KBDI had their studio van out back and
they got the cameras all set and everything goes black. Somebody took an axe
and chopped through the cable that went to the mobile unit. The cable was at
least an inch and you could image the power that was going through it. They cut
through it just to sabotage us. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Oh fuck yeah, are you kidding me. Later I found out that
Feyline like to do shit like that. I think Jimmy knows who did it, but I'm not
sure. He said that son-of-a-bitch was lucky that he wasn’t a pile of ashes out
there. These hippies from KBDI went back out and spliced it all together and
hooked it straight into the transformer on the power pole. The show went on. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Assassination<span style="color: #2a2f3d; mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica;"> Ball was much ado about nothing. 1980 being an election year,
Jimmy took that as a theme. We were pretty tight with The Broadcasters and when
we did shows with them, their manager Kelsey helped us out with promotion.
Jimmy and Kelsey designed a flyer with a picture of Reagan looking as if his
head was being blown apart. I think there were others with Carter-equal
opportunity. A couple of Secret Service agents made an appointment with Jimmy
and Kelsey to ascertain the threat potential and they left satisfied that there
wasn't any.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The one that stung us was
having Gaylord Events Center cancel our rental a week before a show forcing us
to stand outside of the venue the night of and explain to folks showing up that
there wasn't any show that night. That was due to a flyer with knives, guns, pictures
of ribeyes, t-bones and Charlie Manson with a text balloon saying, “It was just
a little game between Tex & me.”<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
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nothing to do with it other than being on the bill, In retrospect one of the
worst things about that era is that Hinkley should have used a larger caliber
weapon.</span><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><o:p></o:p></b></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">The last line-up I was in with the Rok Tots was Marty,
Kristi, Jimmy and I. We're looking at late 84. Our bank went down and we didn't
have money to rent venues and we started playing bars to pull in money and get
our band fund healthy. At this point I'm a fucked-up alcoholic of the worst
sort you can imagine. I'm hating myself for being a drunk fuck-up, wanting to
quit drinking ever Monday morning and taking up drinking every Monday night. We
just got into a bad spot. Another thing that gave us a bad name with some of
the people we used to rent the venues from, the German House were done with
punk rock. Some of the images on our poster caused problems. The city was on us
for putting up the posters. When things are going good, these things are like
flies on your ass. When things are down, it drags you down further. We got into
a cycle where we couldn't bust out. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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I quit and Jimmy and Kristi were working on putting together
another tour. Why are we going to get excited about this one when the last one
we did we slept on filthy floors and lived like bums. <o:p></o:p></div>
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We did one in October of 85 and that was enough. We went in
one big circle: down to Albuquerque, El Paso, San Antonio, Houston, Oklahoma
city, Kanas City, We had a 67' Pontiac Chieftain pulling a U-Haul trailer, two
dogs, and we started off with Kristi's Mustang II and it died in the desert
between El Paso and San Antonio. We left it there. We all piled into Jimmy's
car. On the way home we had no money. The minimum we got paid for a gig was
$75. There was no ATM in those days, it was scrounging and putting all the
money together for gas. Marty is panhandling. On our way home we stopped at a
rest area in Kansas to bed down. I slept in the backseat of the car and the
other guys took their sleeping bags and went off to sleep under picnic tables
or something. A couple of hours after falling asleep I’m awakened by a maglight
pounding on the window. I open my eyes and now the maglight is shining in my
eyes. It’s a Kansas state trooper yelling at me to get out of the car. He tells
us we can't sleep her. It’s a fucking rest area! I don't know if it was a
bullshit story, but he told us we can't be out here because a couple of people
got murdered the other night. We're hoping he doesn’t go looking in the trailer
where the shotgun is or under Jimmy’s pillow where his .357 Magnum is. We're
back on the road at 2 am and drive a few more miles and pull over again to get
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Not that much longer. I quit in 86. I was literally just
flushing myself down the drain with alcohol. Jimmy could also see how fucked-up
I was. I think that is why he took it pretty easy on me. At that point in our
lives, Jimmy and I were pretty much best friends. The band was at the point
where we were playing the same set for a year and a half; we needed to get some new material going. I was also in a new relationship and she thought she
was going to marry a rock star and boy was she wrong. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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We also had a lot of Spinal Tap crap going on too. Jimmy and
I saw Spinal Tap and it was hard for us to understand why it was a comedy. Why was this shit funny to people? It wasn't funny when we went
through it. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i>Jimmy did the sound for shows I went to at Kennedy’s and the Packinghouse.
He was a pretty intense dude. I'd see him get into arguments with people and I
knew just to walk over to the other side of the club. He had quite a
reputation. His guns and knife stories were well known in my circle of friends
and I didn’t know how much of that was true or hearsay and I wasn't interested
in finding out. <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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Jimmy did have anger management issues. I think he took a
fire axe to a club before. One thing people don't know about him was that he
grew up on Larimer Street when it was skid row. You're talking 50 years ago;
Jimmy was a little kid living on goddamn Denver skid row. He learned at an
early age that if you don't get your bluff in you're shot to hell. Then after
you learned that you still put your bluff in and get your ass kicked...naw,
it ain't going to happen anymore. You kick my ass, I'm really going to
fuck you up. I will shoot you, I with stab you, I will club punch you...all
that shit. We gravitated to that stuff to defend ourselves. I grew up in a
small town and dirt poor. Jimmy and I had very similar situations. We didn't
have anyone to really protect us other than out moms or great grandma in my
situation. Jimmy is highly intelligent; he knows it's smarter to negotiate than
to instantly push the red button. <o:p></o:p></div>
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There was some, we had parties and a lot of us ran in the
same circles. We'd put on shows. I would be surprised if the younger bands
thought they were competing with us. We were assholes? Yes, but one-on-one we
were curious to what was going on. We all had a semiotic thing going. We didn’t
walk around with the attitude that "We're in the Rok Tots.” There wasn’t
any idol worshipping going on. We had some enemy bands; The Young Weasels were
the worst because we never got that shit. Basically, they were sponsored by Wax
Trax. We love Wax Trax. How come we couldn’t get sponsored by them? We were
fucking jealous. We weren't above being petty along with all that other shit. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Here's a little story regarding the Frantix. We played a
show in Boulder at the Glen Miller Ballroom for a Rocky Flats initiative. It
was a benefit. The Frantix were on the bill and I don't know if you knew Danny.
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i>I heard plenty of Danny stories from Frantix Davey.<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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Well, Danny kept of flying by the stage right in front of
me. I didn't know what exactly was happening because the lights were in my
eyes. The kid is flying up on stage at my feet and this wasn't working for me.
After about the fourth or fifth time this happens, I kicked him in the mouth.
Of course that stopped, What I found out later is that his buds were picking
him up and throwing him on stage just to see if it would piss me off. Well it
did and Danny suffered for it. Danny and Ricky were like best friend, which I
didn't know at that time. He eventually got me back. When the Frantix played
I'm sitting at the lip of the stage and Danny is running around in a circle.
When came running by me he’d start swinging his fists. That wasn't going to
work for me either. So I'm thinking the next time he runs by I'm going to reach
out and grab his fist. That was wishful thinking because he swung so hard and
had so much behind that when I reached out his fist struck me dead in the
fucking palm of my hand. He hit me so hard that he snapped my silver ring in
half and grounded it into my finger. Afterwards Danny and Rick have Jimmy
cornered in the back and whining, "We're cool, we're from Aurora
too." (Laughter)<o:p></o:p></div>
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Our whole thing was to play for the kids. We would flier
every high school in Denver. We didn't care if you drank, we didn't have booze at
our shows. That’s why you have a car; you go drinking out there in the parking
lot. <o:p></o:p></div>
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We weren’t playing then. We got a call one night at Walabi's
right when we were starting to get some traction. The guy wanted to speak with
the leader of the Rok Tots and we're wondering why they're calling us at the
club. We took it as joke, but in retrospect was it? The guy said he was for
Feyline and wanted to sign us up. Jimmy is looking at us and puts his hand over
the receiver and tells us and we're thinking, "Yeah, right-tell him to go
fuck himself." Toby goes, “No, don't tell him that Jimmy, listen to what
he’s got to say.” Jimmy talked with him maybe 10 or 15 minutes. The guy did
tell Jimmy some things that were expected to do and we were like, “Naw, that's
not us, we're not going to do that.” We were thinking of moving to L.A, but
their set-up there is that we had to have $500 to play and you better have the
draw. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Yeah you can't walk into a club and book a gig. They rent
you the room and you better have the draw because if you don't you have to pay
the difference. The Rok Tots said fuck the clubs, we'll figure out some other
way to make money. You go out into the private world and make your money there.
The clubs just looks at bands as a paycheck. Our band shouldn't have to pay the
soundman, the guy running the door when we're doing all the work. That's the
sort of thing that makes Jimmy reach for the fire axe.<i><o:p></o:p></i></div>
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<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Face Reality-this post contains an updated version of an older post plus and Interview with Frantix drummer Dave Stewart. Enjoy.</span></span></i><br />
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<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Since packing boxes and moving away from Denver
permanently in the summer of 96, I’ve made it a point to return once a year.
Like clockwork, I typically find myself taking a drive through old town Aurora
for a heavy dose of nostalgia. It is a bittersweet remembrance of a time long
since passed. The rearview mirror serves as a harsh reminder that my hair has
indeed changed from dark brown to gray, indicative of the transformed landscape
outside the window. The drive is a sea of cluttered post-war single-family
houses. Colfax Avenue lined with its’ pimps, whores, gangbangers, pawn shops,
hotels and a growing Mexican population cuts right down in the middle of it
all. There has been an obvious shift in demographics from my youth; Aurora
traded its’ suburban identity and embraced a more transient urban one. It was
once a neatly packaged oasis for families seeking the American Dream, it was my
parent’s hope and vision when we arrived in the mid-70’s. Like other countless
communities that dot the perimeter of large cities in America, time has turned
it into another wasteland of dashed hopes.</span></span></i><br />
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<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">In the early 1980’s, one of the best things
to emerge out the decaying old-Aurora landscape was the Frantix. Like most punk
bands at the time, loud and fast rock-n-roll à la the Ramones appealed to bored
and thrill-seeking teenagers craving an outlet for self-expression. It would be
all too easy to sit in front of a record player and play-along to the likes of
radio-friendly songs. Aspiring punk bands had a different approach, a more
self-taught tactic often rejecting conventional methods like guitar lessons and
music theory. It was a more tactile process to start from ground zero. It could
be argued that the music was a pure expression fueled by raw energy. The
experience of being in the same room with the Frantix was hardly a casual
listening exercise; it was a blast in your face that quickly unwound every
nerve in your body. The driving, fuzz sounding guitar with a dash of reverb,
accompanied by punchy bass lines with cymbal heavy drumming behind spastic
braking vocals demanded immediate attention. The four-piece hit the stage with
a conviction most bands lack nowadays.<o:p></o:p></span></span></i></div>
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<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Unfortunately, I only witnessed the Frantix
on a couple of occasions; their sound was unrelenting, menacing and dare I say
gritty. A couple of writers have noted they were on the cusps of grunge long
before Seattle co-opted the term. When they opened for Black Flag at the Rainbow
Music Hall, their music was the perfect soundtrack inspiring punk rockers to
take neatly placed rows of folding chairs and toss them in every direction.
The audience was indeed seduced by the music and craved a need for movement and
self-expression. The band never intentionally scripted such uninhibited
reactions; it was inherently seeded in their sound.<o:p></o:p></span></span></i></div>
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<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">As people, you couldn’t meet a more likable
bunch. The Frantix and their later incarnations: Madhouse, Trontils, Fluid, 57
Lesbian, etc. have stayed true to their roots and acknowledged those who helped
them along the way. They stayed connected at the ground level and distant from rock
star attitudes, always approachable and went out of their way to say “hello.” They
were older and somewhat of a generation ahead, but we were friends nonetheless.
When bassist Matt and guitarist Ricky formed the Fluid, they were the first
non-Seattle band to sign to the seminal Sub Pop label (Nirvana, Soundgarden,
Mudhoney). Even when the band was taking off, they were more than willing to
submit an unreleased 4-track demo cut for one of my Colorado Krew compilations.
I fondly remember Matt showing up with his tape deck and mixing the song on the
spot at Paul’s Aardvark Studios. Their participation in my project spoke
volumes of their modesty. <o:p></o:p></span></span></i></div>
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<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Somehow I had envisioned sitting down with
Matt getting to the meat and bones of the Frantix blah blah blah. Instead what
I got was a whole lot more than tape deck could handle. He ranted like the
intelligent madman he is. He started off our visit by asking me if I thought he
was a sociopath. His armchair psychologist friend a day or two earlier
diagnosed him as borderline. We had beers, shot his BB Gun, talked about why
letting weeds grow in his yard was the most radical form of rebellion in his
neighborhood. The afternoon ended with his old lady yelling at him to turn down
the Rok Tots blaring on his stereo, the royalty check on his wall form Sub Pop
for something like 38 cents, and the phone number to the Frantix drummer, Dave
Stewart. He told me, “Davey would have stories to tell you, just tell him I sent
you.” It was an afternoon well spent.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></span></i></div>
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<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">If Matt was ever right about one thing, it
was Davey’s storytelling. The interconnectivity of remembered moments maps the
landscape of his brain. Talk about an intact and vast cerebral network tucked
inside a cranium. He could probably tell you what color you shirt was the day
he met you. After going through about 5 hours of tape, I’ve finally narrowed
down his story. It’s a shame Davey and I weren’t close Aurora buds all
along.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> Without any further fuss, ladies and gentlemen: Davey Stewart. </span><o:p></o:p></span></span></i></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">One of the first fliers I picked up at Wax Trax was for a Frantix show
and the bottom on it reads: No Klones allowed…assholes. Is it a Kamikaze Klones
reference? Did you have something against the Klones?<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Yes we did. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">When I talked with Matt he said it didn't mean anything. I thought,
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Let me tell you something. First, the Kamikaze Klones were a
great new wave band. I was 18 years old and I got my girl and we’d go check
some shows out. The bassist AJ was a cool dude. We saw the Klones a couple of
times and their drummer…I go take a piss or whatever and I come back and have to
peel him off my wife, the mother of my kids. Hey man, that ain't cool. I told him
“I will beat you to... Man, just step away, that's all you have to do.” He
wouldn't leave her alone; he had a magnet for my wife. It was over, I was 165 pounds,
hair down to my back, and I’ve been in a million fights, played in punk band,
ready for war like Iggy Pop back in the day. They were a new wave band and we
were a punk band so we showed up to destroy the fucking universe and they showed-up
to make a new wave dance scene. We never played a show together, but that was the
scene back then. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Meeting Ricky?<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">The first day of baseball practice in 5th grade, 10 years
old and I was wearing a Hooker Headers t-shirt because my parents had an auto
parts store that sponsored about 15 drag racers. I was little, a 50 pound kid
at baseball practice in a place I never been before that my parents sign me up
for. Some little skinny freckled-face kid walks up to me after practice. I
fucked-up practice so bad because I was out of my loop, I knew nobody, didn't
know what to do. He goes, "that's a pretty cool Hooker Headers shirt, you
into hotrods?" And the only reason why I had that shirt on was because it
was the first one that came out of my dresser drawer that morning. I said,
"yeah, I'm into hotrods" and he goes, "I'm into hotrods too, you
into baseball too? I go, "Umm, my parents signed me up for this, I don't
even know what I'm doing." He said, "My dad's the coach." <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Aurora, Colorado pride. Why the Frantix? You, Ricky, Danny, and Paul
decided to play punk rock. How did that come about?<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Dude, we needed a
name for the band and the Flintstones cartoon was on the TV. It was the episode
when Fred dropped a bowling ball on his foot and jumped around and it turned into
a dance craze, "The Flintstone Frantic" as I recall. Rick and I looked
at each other and said, “Shazzam dude, that is it.” </span><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><o:p></o:p></i></b></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Danny never played live. Danny wrote half of the first songs
with Rick. We played them in my bedroom of my mom’s basement with an amplifier
and a drum set. When it came time to play shows Danny was just Danny and he
goes, “I don't think I like the idea of just standing up and playing some
shit." I met Danny and Ricky when I was 10 years old. Danny and Ricky were
friends when they were 8 years old. They had a couple of years on me. We were
all rock-n-roll, hard rock AM radio junkies. It didn't matter if it was Paul Revere
and the Raiders or the Grass Roots or the Carpenters...anything with a hook on
the AM radio. We threw down with KIMN 95. By 1975 Danny, Rick and I had been to
about 15 Denver rock-n-roll shows. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">You knew you wanted to be in a rock-n-roll band, did you think about
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">It wasn't punk rock for years with us; it wasn't until the
Ramones came out. Before that, it was Rick and I playing little league football
and baseball and being so aggressive that...Rick's dad was our coach, Dick Kulwicki.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>We were really into hot rods and rock-n-roll.
We were in 8th grade going through the motions of practice and Dick would blow
the whistle and say: "You guys are pussies, take your pads and helmets off!"
Basically, mano a mano, run into each other every time he blew the whistle. It
seemed natural. He said, “You guys want to play like old ladies, you don't need
those pads.” We would do that and then of course we'd get back to school and
everything and listen to rock-n-roll. I picked up the snare drum in elementary
and played in some stupid grade school band. I knew I wanted to be a drummer.
There were a couple of clarinets, a guy on trombone, and I’d hit maybe 5 notes
on the snare drum. Well, then I figured out that at JC Penny I could buy a drum
set for $39. I collected pop bottles and beer cans and turned them in and
bought this shitty little drum set. I played that fucking thing until I beat it
so fucking hard that there was no way to play it. But Rick, Danny and I kept
talking about rock-n-roll and I didn't tell them that the drum set was beat to
shit and not even playable. That was before the Ramones record came out. Back
then it was Ted Nugent and Aerosmith and the skateboard and motocross thing. I
was motocross and Danny and Rick were skateboarders. I'm trying to get to the pro
class as fast as I can in motocross and that's my only fucking thing man. It
still is, in fact I got a garage full of motocross bikes, had 11 surgeries...if
I take off my shirts I look like a fucking roadmap. Thank God I still have both
kidneys and a liver. (Laughter) But I've spent so much time in hospitals that it
just becomes a blur. We were a bunch of kids that were into BMX, motocross and
skateboarding, rock-n-roll, punk rock, arena rock, and everything else. It
started and finished there. Between the three of us, the hard rock never
stopped. We were teenagers and we had to destroy something, there were no
options. We found instruments and the music to do it. We were still in tune
with the old school shit, the rhythm, like the stuff on KEZW; the big band
shit. Once we figured out we had a stupid suitcase amp, 2-piece drum set and
found the Ramones and Iggy and the Stooges, we were off. We were so fucking
off, we were off the map, and we’re off in my mom's laundry room. The big convergences
of being a kid in the mid-70’s was perfect and guess what happened then, there
was the Ramones and we though we were pretty down with that and then that first
Black Flag EP came out. We listened to that and we knew we could be better in
my mom's laundry room and that's where you got the Frantix. That's the whole
story man. Other than that you got the Germs forming EP. Did you have that
record?</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Strangely I did. I found it in Rhode Island of all places during a road
trip back in 87. We ran into the Descendents several times during that trip and
I showed the record to Milo and he was pretty tripped out that I was driving
around with it. <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Then you got the Dangerhouse bands, the Avengers from San Francisco.
Then L.A. bands like, X, Adolescents, Agent Orange and you got the VOM who
ended up being the Angry Samoans. I had every one of those motherfuckers
without the Internet. Me, Rick and Danny just kept on going down to Wax Trax
and hanging out with Duane. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">I picked this flier up at Wax Trax. This show happened a week after opening for Black Flag at the Rainbow Music Hall. What a line-up, some of Denver's finest playing contemporary Polka favorites. Collection of the Author.</span></i></span></td></tr>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">When I think of those bands, I think of your band’s song, Dancin’ to Punk.
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">It was like a slap in the face. Rick and I wrote that song
right about the time Fleetwood Mac were terrible. Even worse was the Lindsay Buckingham
and Stevie Nicks record. They were basically so terrible they earned a million
dollars. <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Dancin’ to Punk</i> was
something that came from Aurora, Colorado. It’s a great song, never throw that
one under the bus or I'll to take a plane to Ethiopia...(Laughter) </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Rick came up with the vocals and it was his take on what he was
hearing in rock-n- roll music. It was one of those things before hardcore, the
Frantix got pushed into hardcore. Once the hardcore thing hit, we weren't going
to be beat by anybody. The core of the Frantix was we were a rock-n-roll band.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">In my research it seems the Rok Tots was the end of old Denver punk
before the whole hardcore thing took off. The link between the new and old and
maybe the Frantix was Denver’s first real hardcore band? Where am I at on that
statement? <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I see where you are coming from and you really do have a
point. How do I say this...The Rok Tots are the baddest mother fucking band in
the world, badder than Motorhead! Quote that, “The Rok Tots are the baddest
fucking rock and roll band in the history of the world.” Jimmy was Aurora
Central and we were Aurora Hinkley. But the Frantix were a whole different
thing, The Frantix started doing our own shit; we were young and naive.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I'm not dissing the Tots at all. They had elements of the old school
punk sound with some Who in there...Ramones sensibilities but harder and more
driving. Sure, they were their own act, but I see them as the band that helped
propel a change in sound. The Frantix seemed to be a logical outcome of that. <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">You got me on that one, I'm a little bit emotional. Here’s
how this thing shifted, Rick and I saw the Rok Tots a couple of times when we
were 17 years old with the original band: Jimmy, Jeff, Toby, and Ronnie...everything
the Frantix became was inspired by them. It didn't matter anything the
Buzzcocks or anyone else did.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">You had the connection to them, you saw them play, and they totally lit
you guys. <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">If you saw that band in any form-that was rock-n-roll at its
root and most powerful wake. Then you got us, the Frantix, a bunch of goofballs
from Aurora that have no musical training. I couldn't tell you any rhythm, any
beat, any chord progression, anything. At the point of the Frantix, all we wanted
was to have the same impact as the Rok Tots. We didn't have the same equipment
or back drop. We would take sheets my mom had thrown in the trash and spray
paint Frantix on them. We would do that to emulate the Rok Tots, but we didn't
emulate them in any musical sense because we weren't even close. They did their
thing and we did ours. The Rok Tots were the elders and weren't respected by
anybody except for a small group of us. All we wanted to do was to destroy
everything like they did. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Rick, Danny and I would see the Young Weasels, Gluons, Rok
Tots and we eventually got Paul Dog on bass and started playing rock shows, it was
that easy. It was so easy after being influenced by these amazing people. We
never played a rock show in our life. At our first show when they turned on the
PA, we went fucking crazy. For me being a drummer, I don't give a shit, I play
on emotion and the only person that ever made sense to me was Keith Moon. Ricky
played off that so...One night at the debut of the <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Kid Are Alright</i> by the Who at the Aladdin Theater on Colfax, Rick
and I went to go see it. We're having a nice time and after the movie we get
into our little shit-box car and drove back to Aurora where everything makes
sense. I look at Rick and I go, “The only Drummer that make sense to me is Keith
Moon.” Rick goes, “You just figured that out? That's the only way you play
drums.” <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Did you sit on a milk crate to play drums? <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">That was my great
grandmother Leah Ruth Lamb's (born 1898) first suitcase when she was a
young lady. I still got it and played every fucking Frantix show on it. </span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">The Frantix in 2008? <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">We did a reunion show in 2008 at Wax Trax and Marc didn't
show.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Was he supposed to? <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I can't say anything about Marc. I can tell you right now
Marc's good, but if he got back into punk rock he wouldn't be good. First off,
Marc lived right across the street from me, I dated his sister in high school, and
his brother was my best friend. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Why did he sometimes go by the name Ronnie Jr.? <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Because his dad was Ronnie. (Laughter) By the way, no matter
what you write in your book, Matt is the third greatest bass player in the
world, in the history of rock and roll. I don’t give a shit what you write, but
that has to be in there. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">You didn't play outside Denver much, but you did a short west coast
tour. I came across Frantix flier from San Diego. <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">We had some problems. We don't talk about that show. But we
did play with Frightwig, Social D, and Los Olvidados at the Mabuhay Gardens in
San Francisco. We only played 4 or 5 shows on tour, there was going to be more,
but it got to be less because a problem showed up. Timmy Yohannan of MRR, no
matter what we did we could always crash, park, take showers, re-group, and use
the phone at his place. Timmy and Jello Biafra did so much for the Frantix; we
could never repay them. We drove out west in some 1972 van, we didn't have
much, but if we had slice of bread, a slab of baloney, and a squeeze of
mustard, we were good. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">It was bad scene. That's all I'm going to say.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Bum Kon beer was beer. You know what man, it fucking sucks
ass we lost Larry. Bum Kon was fucking great. How about some good news, how
about Mark's drumming. That dickhead would come over and say to me I saw you
play this, this and this and show me this. I had no idea how to respond, I just
played a set, stupid Aurora shit. Mark was a great drummer; he plays a million
notes in perfect time. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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looked like had the Frantix recorded an album and toured a bunch. Perhaps even
Bum Kon taking their show out on the road. You mentioned the Rok Tots going
under the radar, but yet inspired your band. You got a little more posthumous exposure
than they did with the Australian release in 2008 and the most recent
Alternative Tentacles release of the singles with extra goodies. I have to say,
the recordings are great, but it nowhere captures the intensity of your live
shows. The band played honest from the gut rock-n-roll. Like the Tots, so many
people should have seen it, but never had that opportunity. You should have
been in the league with some of the best bands of that time period. I guess
that was one of the reasons why I'm compelled to do this project. Historically
Denver has always been a footnote, overlooked in the scope of American punk
rock. There were so many great bands that came from here that never got their
due. <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">It means a lot to hear you put it into those words. We knew
we were that when we got it fired up. We didn't know anything about the
industry. We took it on the road a little and Duane Davis is the Bhagavad Gita
of the whole fucking thing that got us set up, released our records, and played
us on KFML AM radio. We were young kids that thought we could destroy the universe,
but the universe didn't find us. In so many ways we were grounded. I was
teaching my kid to ride his bike without training wheels; Rick was doing his
thing at art school. We just didn't break out. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">It was Ricky and I, and Danny, then Paul Dog on bass at first
then Matt replaced him and Marc came along. The greatest thing about Marc was
that he wasn't a singer, but he's on all these records. Marc lived across from
me in a cul-de-sac when Aurora was literally a cowtown. When girls got home
from after school they would ride their horses around the neighborhood in their
halter-tops in the 70's without bras on. (Laughter) It was greatest time in the
world. Then we got Marc only because Rick was tired of singing and Marc was
hanging out on the beanbag chair. Rick said, "Look dude, you lazy ass
fuck, I sick of singing. If you're going to sit there and smoke our dope and
watch us, you could at least come up to the mic and try to sing a song. That
fucking guy went crazy. That's how we got Marc; he was 4 years younger than his
sister, my girlfriend at the time and his bother, my best friend.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">We're jamming out in my mom's laundry room and Rick steps
away for the mic and Marc grabs that thing and kicks a huge fucking dent in my
mom's dryer door and screamed like a fucking maniac. After that we squared up
and everything. I thought, that guy's fucked-up and Rick just looked at me and
said, “That guy's the fuckin’ singer of the band!” I said, "Good enough
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guy, very involved, supportive and all that. I guess that begs the questions,
what was your families reaction to the songs: My Dad's a Fuckin' Alcoholic and
My Dad's Dead. I know in past interviews the band stated, "Who's dad
wasn't (an alcoholic)?" Tongue and cheek, punk rock right?<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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Dogmeat cover. You will never track down anything that band recorded. They were
out of old Littleton and blew-up the whole place up for a year and then went
away. Tommy and Billy went somewhere and Mikey went to Seattle. Every time The
Fluid went to Seattle, they would run into Mikey Dogmeat and tried to find any
shitty cassette of Dogmeat songs. He was like, "Nope, we didn't record
anything." Jimmy from the Tots was stoked enough and saw those guys once
probably at some dive bar with like 8 people watching them or whatever and
started to book them. There were three shows were Dogmeat was the opening band.
At one point they opened for the Rok Tots and those boneheads had commissioned
or stolen a potable construction chain-link fences like 6-feet tall and put it
around the stage. We go down to this Rok Tots show and Dogmeat opens up. The
drummer Billy is wrapped up head to toe like a mummy playing his crap on a
shitty drum set. Rick and Danny get so wound up they fall into me, I punched
Danny in the face, Rick grabs Danny and throws him head first into the
chain-link dog fence and the whole fence collapses right when Tommy Dogmeat is
in a middle of a chorus-verse and breaks both of his front teeth. So now, you
got the dog fence broken down, the singer/guitar player has both of his front
teeth broken with blood all over his mouth and we pull the dog fence off and
they finish the set. It gets better. When the Frantix was on tour and we're in L.A.,
Tommy Dogmeat got his new caps on and we stay two days at his place in
Hollywood and he had a band so we practiced on his band's shit. Tommy plugged
in and looks at Rick and asked him if he was game, so we played a bunch of Who
shit. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Alcoholic? <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Umm...They didn't ask and we didn't ask. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Did they know about it? I mean, you come home with your new record;
obviously you're stoked to have another record out. You probably showed it to
them, they're looking it over and probably thinking to themselves, "What
the heck...My Dad's Dead, My Dad's a Fucking Alcoholic..." and no
reaction? <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">That's Danny. He's in the center of the Australian CD and
the Alternative Tentacles one. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">It's like he's still in the band. <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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we die when Matt and I are in the band together or apart Rick and Danny are
still there. That picture with Danny wearing his sunglasses is badass and he
was a big sweet-ass motherfucker that had wavy hair. He was the ultimate surfer
looking dude, but never knew it. He decided not to cut his hair like a lot of
us did. Sometimes we'd cut our hair and he never did except the time he got “hair
control” at a Frantix practice. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Danny had curly hair, like Marc. They both had those
brofros. Rick and I would sit around drinking beer at practice and we'd look at
each other and say, "Hair control!" This was Rick's idea, Danny and
Mark had flowing locks and he goes, “I don't know man, we gotta do some
haircuts here." What are we going to call it? Hair Control. Mark and Danny
were out in my mom's living room smoking so much pot that we convinced them they
were perfect candidates for Hair Control. Ricky and I got a pair of scissors,
like grade school scissors. We didn't know what we were doing; we chopped something
like two feet off their heads. (Laughter) They thought they were punks for the
next month or two. Marc live right across the street, he went home and of
course his dad, Ronnie Sr. gets up when Marc comes out of the basement. I think
we gave him holes in about three different places. They just kept smoking pot
and we just kept cutting. We tired to get more recipients after that night, but
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">The Rainbow had these mobile storage units, like the ones at
elementary schools when they run out of space. Rick and I got there; loaded in
our shit and sitting on the curb doing nothing. Here's a visual for you, this
shitty van pulls up, it is the crustiest ever and these stinky fucks pile out
of it like rats. Everyone drove the extended Dodge van back in the day. And
then another one pulls up and starts dragging in the gear and shit. Henry sits
down next to Rick and I. We were like, that's fucking cool. He didn't say a
fucking thing except Henry is covered with scabs and bites and bruises. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">So Henry sits down next to us, a couple of Aurora boys
watching little birdies fly by, hip-to-hip. We're like, "Hey Henry how's
it going?" He doesn't say a fucking thing. He’s picking scabs and that
goes on for about 5 minutes. Remember Berry Fey's guys at the Rainbow with
those yellow shirts that said SECURITY? One of those guys was being a dick and
walked up to Henry and goes, "Hey bud." Henry looks up then goes back
to picking scabs sitting ass-to-ass with Kulwicki and I. The guy finally kicks
Henry's shoe and says, "Hey bud, you need a pass." Henry shoots up a
like a tiger and gets in the guys face and goes, "Dude, I'm the fucking
singer of Black Flag and I've just drove 18 hours from Minneapolis to play this
fucking shit hole so you can get the FUCK out of my FUCKING shit." He's
like nose to nose with this security dude who has at least a 100 pounds on him.
The guard is, "Whoa, whoa, hey bud, you just gotta get a pass." He
walked away. Henry sits back down. Rick and I were, "Nice, job dude."
Henry doesn't even look at us and continues picking. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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and the Minutemen were with them that day. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Dude, The Minutemen, Black Flag, Nig Heist and The Frantix
were all on each side of the stage watching that band. They were so stupid and
by the end of their set they were still playing new wave stuff. We're just
watching waves of fucking piss, water, and spit, anything that can be thrown on
them. That's when Henry livened up. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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bottle of whiskey he brought and Black Flag's roadie, Mugger who is also in Nig
Heist both start drinking. When Danny gets whiskey in him he's like an Irishman
and Mugger is badass. They get going and the whiskey gets passed around and
some of the other Black Flag guys are so fatigued from the night before are
just trying to rally and think about the show and we have a fucking wild party
going. D. Boon from the Minutemen comes out naked. We're in a mobile unit and
Mugger and Danny are drunk and D. Boon is naked dancing around like fucking
Scotsman. Mike Watt is, “Ahhh, fuck, not again.” Somebody finds a towel and
soaks it down. D. Boon is knocking shit over getting slapped in the ass by a
wet towel. It was the craziest thing I ever saw. Well, I guess this is punk
rock. Now you got the back-story of your first Black Flag show.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Heist. The cool thing about the ticket stub from that show was that it was a
tarot card, XIII, the skeleton death card. After the show I was waiting for my
dad to pick me up. My friend and I are hanging out at McDonalds across the
street from the Rainbow and Marc walks up to the counter to order a burger. I
pulled out my ticket and borrowed a pen from the girl at the register and asked
him to sign it. I looked at his signature and I was like, "Ronnie
Jr.?" I thought it was some smart-ass take on Ronald Reagan. (Laughter) <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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motherfucker. He had very cool parents, but he just went wild. He was nobody
you'd want to fuck with. He didn't fuck with any of us in the band; I'd beat
his ass. It'd be a death match. We were playing at Kennedy's one night and the
Denver Skins started fucking with us, like really fucking with us. They started
fucking with the crowd first then came up front. You remember Kennedy's was
always in a state of disrepair. You can picture a cinderblock and Marc
challenged the whole Denver Skins in between songs to a fight, the whole group
against one. I'm like, “Ahh fuck, here we go.” Marc amped it up a little bit,
finds a cinderblock on the side of the stage and puts his arms between the two
holes starts swinging that thing around his head and stage dives and tried to
smash it into the skull of every person in front of the stage. We're playing
one of the fast songs, verse-chorus-verse-chorus and watched Marc chase
everyone out the front door. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I don’t know if you remember the men's bathroom at
Kennedy's, a big double-ended dildo with a swastika on the each end of it and a
big hole punched through the wall with a view right into the women's rest room?
We loaded in, we waited around and someone left that marker there...So we drew
a big dildo because there was this anti-man group, A.S.F. They had their thing
going. So we did that for them. We had too much time on our hands.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"><i>Davey wanted to make sure the Trontils were mentioned. They were great when they opened for the Descendents. According to Davey, they played a different set of songs then they normally played. Flier courtesy of <a href="http://Trashistruth.com/">Trashistruth.com</a> </i></span></td></tr>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Any unreleased Frantix stuff?<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I have a shoebox full of tapes in my garage with Rick
singing on it that nobody has ever heard. On the Alternative Tentacles release
we have four different songs. There are at least 15 songs, maybe 20 on reels
and cassettes that are sitting around my house that need to be mixed. The
Frantix know about this, but haven't been motivated to do anything about it. We
totally got rid of the Fluid shit. On the Face Reality EP it is a lot of the Fluid
shit. I played with the Fluid at the end for about 6 months after not playing
drums for 5 years. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">The Packinghouse?<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">The only thing with the Packinghouse, Danny took over the
door because we learned early on after a couple of shows. They had their own
program and we had ours. There was the purse, meaning the bands would get this
amount and the place would get this amount. With the Frantix set-up, Danny was straight
up and every band that played with us we would all get paid and they were damn,
we want to play with you guys again. We took all the money at the door and
whatever the club, bar, hall needed, we'd pay them. The Frantix never ripped
anyone off. We would pay their shit and it would be time to take care of our
shit- Aurora, Colorado style.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="padding-top: 4px; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"><i>Merry Christmas c. late 1982. Image courtesy of Ricky's sister Diane P.</i></span></td></tr>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><i><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">In loving memory of Ricky Kulwicki.
1961-2011</span></i></i></span></i></span></div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><i>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><i><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Frantix are: vocals: Marc Deaton, guitarist:
Rick Kulwicki, bassist: Matt Bischoff,<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>drummer: Dave Stewart, Original vocals, bouncer, doorman, and mascot: Danny Einertson, and original
bassist: Paul Dog (Katopodes)<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></i></i></span><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><i><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><br /></span></span></i>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><i><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">Face Reality EP 1982 Local Anesthetic Records</span></span></i></i></span><br />
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><i><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">My Dad's A Fuckin' Alcoholic EP 1983 Local Anesthetic Records</span></span></i></i></span></div>
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<i>Somehow it’s appropriate to combine my interviews with
Johnny Meggitt and Steve “Sumo” Shiramizu into one post. The duo had been inseparable
from the mid-80’s to the early 90’s playing together in numerous manifestations:
Brother Rat, Dogbite, Rope, and El Espectro. I was fortunate enough to talk
Dogbite into letting me use one of their cuts, Verge of Nothing for my final
Donut Crew compilation: Colorado Krew III-This Is My Donut. The record captured
a good cross-section of the old guard and the new bands of Denver’s underground
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<i>I had completely missed Johnny’s first band, Child Abuse who
disbanded in mid-83. The group was well documented through the band’s ad hoc
photographer and den mother, Nancy Kennedy. Child Abuse practiced in the basement
of Nancy’s house on Fillmore St., the cradle of Denver’s blossoming hardcore
scene and local punk hang out. Nancy’s stake in the matter was creating a space
for her son, Tom, the guitarist of the band to encourage his musical enterprises.
Between Tom’s high leaps and Johnny’s close to the ground stage antics, the band
haphazardly thrashed through their sets opening for national touring acts such
as the Misfits. The four-some laid the foundation for what I would describe as the
East High/Fillmore cartel that would go on to shape Denver’s underground music
scene for the reminder of the 80’s and beyond. It should be noted that Tom’s
contributions with Johnny and Steve continued with both Brother Rat and
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<i>I did catch Meggitt during his short-lived stint as the front
man in Acid Ranch at Kennedy’s in 84. Acid Ranch was a radical departure from
want most Denver bands were playing at the time infusing a hybrid of a
cow-punk-jazzy sound. Tom joined up with Steve (ex-Signal 30) drummer and
formed the slower and heavier, Legion of Doom. This was typical of members from
the first wave of hardcore bands to switch members and venture off in new
musical direction as most had run their course playing loud and
stop-on-dime songs. This sort of experimentation and rendition of musical
chairs typified the heyday of Kennedy’s Warehouse.<o:p></o:p></i></div>
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<i>While my band, Idiots Revenge was grooving on the punk thing and
trying to figure out our instruments. Promoter, Mike Brew threw us on the opening
slot for Brother Rat at the Grove in 85. We definitely felt the heat trying to
make it from one song to the next. The five-piece Brothers took the stage with
their brand of rock and had the crowd shaking their stuff. As consolation,
Steve and Johnny were both encouraging and didn’t belittle our efforts. That’s
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<i>I knew Johnny and Steve more from their jobs as clerks
behind the counter at Wax Trax. Both had varied tastes in music and were always
willing to recommend what was playing on their turntables at the time. Despite
Johnny’s flip of the switch theatrical stage persona and charisma he was
typically reserved and laid back when he was away from the spotlight. On the
other hand, Steve was always adventurous and up for whatever flew in his
direction. Steve even sold me a bass rig when when he was hocking drums at Rupps. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></i></div>
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<i>I caught Steve early on with questions before splitting Facebook’s
black hole. Duane Davis co-owner of Wax Trax wished me good luck on finding
Johnny. My gratitude goes to Bob McDonald for putting me in touch with him. Below,
their shared experiences in the Denver scene.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Part I: In Sumo’s words.</b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="color: #24282e; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">You grew up in Denver at the time when there wasn’t much
diversity. I was called all sorts of names like Chico gone-fatso, Rodriguez,
and so on because of my Mexican-American background. You went by the name Sumo
at one time, did you think it had any racist
leanings?</span></i></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica;"><o:p></o:p></span></i></b><br />
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<span style="color: #24282e; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">I'm
not sure who branded me with that nickname. People still call me that
today. Its funny because a friend of mine was telling me a story about
his kid and how his kid thought that it was racist.</span><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica;"> </span><span style="color: #24282e; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">I'm not sure if I agree. I don't think the
connection to a Sumo wrestler is racist. I'm Japanese and I'm
large. Sumo wrestlers are Japanese and large. When I had long hair I
used to get mistaken for being Native American. Sometimes people would call me "Chief" That I found to be racist.</span><br />
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>Signal 30 at the Packing House. Photograph unknown. Brush and ink drawing by Bob Rob Medina. </i></span></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">Letter collection of Tom Headbanger. </span></i></td></tr>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="color: #24282e; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">Prior to playing in Legion Of Doom, did you have another band?
Were you the youngest member?</span></i></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica;"><o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span style="color: #24282e; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">The
first band I was in was called Signal 30. We disbanded suddenly and I ended up
in Legion of Doom. There was another L.O.D., Legion of Death that came
along after. They were a speed metal band. I was the youngest in pretty much
every band I was in until I was in my 30's.</span></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="color: #24282e; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">I read in an interview where Legion of Doom wanted to open for
AC/DC, was that the direction you saw punk heading in?</span></i></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica;"><o:p></o:p></span></i></b><br />
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<span style="color: #24282e; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">No.
We probably wanted to open up for AC/DC because they were/are awesome. I
don't even remember doing any interviews in that band. </span><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica;"><o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="color: #24282e; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">It seemed like a lot of bands that formed in 81-82 were changing
musical directions, maybe learning their instruments, slowing down the pace.
Bands like Black Flag, SSD, Necros seemed to be embracing their hard rock
roots. Do you think L.O.D. was trying to do that?</span></i></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica;"><o:p></o:p></span></i></b><br />
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<span style="color: #24282e; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">I
don't know that we would have really known about any musical trends. We
were just into playing music and having fun. </span><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica;"><o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="color: #24282e; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">Did you ever notice a shift in the scene? If so, when do you
think that was and what do you think caused it?</span></i></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica;"><o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span style="color: #24282e; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">The
biggest shift I noticed was the crossover between Metal and Hardcore.</span><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica;"> </span><span style="color: #24282e; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">That brought in a lot of new faces at shows and everyone
started to grow their hair -myself included. </span><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica;"><o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="color: #24282e; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">Violence at shows in Denver: generational, racism, drugs, what factors did you think contributed
to it?</span></i></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica;"><o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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think that the potential for violence can occur when you have a bunch of people
who see each other repeatedly over time. Some of them may learn that they
don't like each other much or they get on each other's nerves. Shit
is bound to occur at some point especially when you dealing with teenage kids. </span></div>
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any?</span></i></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica;"><o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span style="color: #24282e; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">Oh
man, so many places. The Turnverein, Packing House, the Taste of Denver
and Kennedy's have so many memories of seeing great bands. </span><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica;"><o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="color: #24282e; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">My first band, Idiots Revenge opened for Brother Rat at the
Grove in 85, I was stoked because we were playing with the older people in the
scene. Do you feel that there was a generation gap at the time? What was
direction Brother Rat was going for, I remember the band being a lot different
than L.O.D.</span></i></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica;"><o:p></o:p></span></i></b><br />
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<span style="color: #24282e; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">I
was the drummer so I wasn't really that involved in the musical
direction. Brother Rat had so many musical elements. It was really a
great marriage of so many styles. Larry Denning was one of the best guitar
players around and he had such a great musical style. He could play pretty
much anything. Tom Kennedy was so energetic on stage and he wrote so many
great riffs. He was so much fun to be in a band with. Michael Anderson was
the elder statesman in the band as he was in Dogmeat. He probably had a
lot to do with the musical direction/organization of everyone. Then of course
there was Johnny Meggitt. He is a great friend and was an awesome front
man. He had a magnetic personality and brought so many people to come and
see us. His stage presence drew people in and he put everything into his
performance. </span><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica;"><o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="color: #24282e; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">Was there a time when playing shows wasn’t fun anymore? Did you
ever feel burned out my music?</span></i></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica;"><o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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<span style="color: #24282e; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">In
my opinion, playing out started to go downhill when we went into bars and
started playing to over 21 crowds.</span><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica;"> </span><span style="color: #24282e; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">It
probably also had something to do with growing up as well. I
haven't been nearly as passionate about music since the late 80's or very early
90s. I tend to cling to the music I loved when I was 14-20. I was so
stoked to see the Stooges and Flag at Riot Fest last year. Seeing the
Descendents this year was also rad also.</span><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica;"> </span><span style="color: #24282e; mso-bidi-font-family: Times;">I
can't keep up with all these new bands. I think I was old before my
time. </span><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Helvetica;"><o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">I was talking with Larry from Trash Is Truth about the early origins of
Denver thrash/hardcore and he had this theory that perhaps several kids went to the showing of the movie, Decline of the Western Civilization
and walked out wanting to start a band. Did you and your friend catch that
film?<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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Decline was a turning point for sure, I was already getting
into punk but that was the first experience I had with hardcore. Child Abuse
was just a natural step for us. Unlike the mainstream at the time, punk rock
really felt like something we could participate in on many levels. Being in a
band was just a further expression of our frustration with American culture at
the time. Ronald Reagan and the whole return to the 50’s thing. Oh and yuppies,
remember them?<o:p></o:p></div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>Child Abuse at Slovenian Hall. Photograph by Joe Hughes. Brush and ink drawing by Bob Rob (Medina). </i></span></td></tr>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Mike Serviolo described Child Abuse’s sound akin to the Germs, what do
you think he meant by that? What was your take?<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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Early Germs? I can see that. I really didn’t sing, mostly
just rolled around and growled. I think the band was Tom Kennedy’s idea, he was
a very creative thinker. I just went along because it felt natural and I had
some teen angst to exercise. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">I was at Nancy Kennedy’s house scanning some of her old photographs. Looking
at the Child Abuse band practice shots, you always appeared to be a 100%
committed in delivery. I would go as far as to say that you took your vocal
duties to a theatrical level. Was that conscious or more of a logical
expression of the music?<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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I figured that if I couldn’t hit any notes I might as well
express myself the best I could. I had to transcend on some level just to get
my nerve up, but really it was mostly nervous energy.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Why did Child Abuse end? <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Several people have mentioned that you were part of a very tight-knit
scene, meaning the East High kids. When Child Abuse ended it seemed like you
took a break until Brother Rat formed, were you waiting for the right moment to
join another band. <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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Being in a band was always a hobby for me, so much fun
writing lyrics and hanging out with the players. I was recently kicked-out of a
band and Brother Rat came along. What a fun group! Steve Shiramizo is such a
great person and great drummer. Tom Kennedy also, top-shelf, just so much fun to
be around and play music with.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">By the time I had my band going, one of our earlier shows was opening
for Brother Rat at the Grove and I remember watching and thinking how together
that band sounded. At the time I didn’t realize we were playing with a super-group
of sorts, but it seemed like the band had its’ eye on trying to make it as
band. Did you ever feel that way? I say that because of the band photos you
took. The images spoke of trying to stretch beyond being a group of post-punk
kids and move towards establishing something that might be considered a Denver
sound.<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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I think we were trying to rock more. It seemed silly to play
hardcore forever…oh shit, I hope Joey Shithead doesn’t read this!<o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Did you think Brother Rat and Acid Ranch was part of that early Denver
sound? Do you think there was a Denver sound?<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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To me there’s a Denver sound, It’s Frantix, White Trash, Bum
Kon. I wasn’t in those bands. Acid Ranch’s sound was developed by the
musicians: Andy Monley, Chris Steele, and Jeff Ross (talk about all-stars).
Brother Rat was also developed before I entered the picture but the two were
very different.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">In an interview you stated that music is basically anything? What do
you mean by that?<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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I don’t recall that, maybe it referred to industrial music
or perhaps I was high. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Was the Denver scene unique?<o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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I really don’t have anything to compare it to. It was very
special for sure. There was this electricity in the air; we were all
discovering so much great music and so many new ideas. I learned so much about art
and life in the early eighties. Thanks Nancy!<o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">So the scene was special when you first became involved?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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It was so exciting, like a first kiss.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">In retrospect do you wish you better documented the bands that you
played in? <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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Just Child Abuse-that would be really great to hear again.
Tom Kennedy and I came up with some great lyrics and Jason Smith was a little
beast behind the kit.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">I always remember you from working at Wax Trax and having a very open
mind about the music you listened to, was that how you found yourself getting
into punk? <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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Punk saved my adolescents, By the time I was 14 I was
getting so bored with rock and roll. How many Stones records can you listen to
until you just want to throw up? Something had to give.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Did you feel that were some prejudices in the scene if you had an open
mind and listened to anything beyond punk</i></b>? <o:p></o:p></div>
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In the crowd I ran with we just listened to music so I
didn’t really feel that.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">What sort of changes did you witness in the scene as it developed? What
did you like and didn’t like? <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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It was all really great except the violence.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">At some point you moved from Denver, why? <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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There was nothing left for me to do there, I was burnt out
and doing way too many substances. I needed to challenge myself. I’m so glad I
did, it took a while, but San Francisco is really good right now.</div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Duane Davis wished me luck in contacting you for an interview, what do
you think he meant by that? <o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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Ha, he still knows me pretty well! I’m a private person
these days, married with cats. I rarely even do social media. I have a small
group of friends here and I work and I paint. I never correspond with anyone
from the old days. I’m doing a pop-up show with my wife and Bob McDonald and
his wife. I do mostly stripped down landscapes and subjects that I collage in
paint.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">What does punk mean to you?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></i></b></div>
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<span style="color: #242424; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Cambria; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Cambria;">Fuck
the politically minded, here's something I want to say,<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: #242424; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Cambria; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Cambria;">About
the state of nation, the way it treats us today.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: #242424; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Cambria; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Cambria;">At
school they give you shit, drop you in the pit,<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: #242424; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Cambria; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Cambria;">You
try, you try, you try to get out, but you can't because they've fucked you
about.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: #242424; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Cambria; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Cambria;">Then
you're a prime example of how they must not be,<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: #242424; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Cambria; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Cambria;">This
is just a sample of what they've done to you and me.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: #242424; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Cambria; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Cambria;">Do
they owe us a living?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: #242424; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Cambria; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Cambria;">Of
course they do, of course they do.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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us a living?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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course they do, of course they do.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i>Brother Rat. Photograph by Nancy Kennedy. Brush and ink drawing by Bob Rob (Medina).</i></span></td></tr>
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